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To: Cronos

More anti-Christian propoganda. It was primarily the evangelical Christian “West” that rescued millions of Jews from the Nazi extermination plans. The “West” welcomed Jews with open arms also. We were fortunate to get many Jewish scientists who defected to the West.

Real Christianity was never anti-Judiasm. During the times when the New Testament was written, Christianity was considered one of may Jewish sects. Jewish Christians retained their Jewish identities and customs. Gentile converts to Christianity were not required to convert to Judiasm. Today we have this weird amalgamation of carry-over Judiased Christianity which tries to apply Jewish ceremonial law to Gentile Christians while simulteously disallowing Jewish Christians from keeping their Jewish heritage. We also split Christianity into ethnic groups which was unthinkable in the New Testament era.

Rather, most of the historical persecution was directed by Jewish leaders toward both Christ and His followers. Jewish leaders did everything in their power to stop the spread of Christianity both among Jews and Gentiles in the first century.

Today’s so-called “Jews” (mostly secular) continue to attack Christianity, whether it is the less open bigotry of Jews who run things in Hollywood, or the more direct assaults coming from groups like the ACLU, or the “Jews” in Obama’s administration. For yet another example, see...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3013607/posts#11


14 posted on 04/29/2013 8:56:56 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner
Real Christianity was never anti-Judiasm.

"Real chrstianity" (pro-Jewish Fundamentalist Protestantism) is only some three hundred to four hundred years old. Historical chrstianity is rabidly anti-Jewish.

Of course, if you're one of those dogmatists who hold that the "original chrstianity" became corrupt and had to be "restored" later (under Luther, Calvin, Smyth, Wesley, Campbell, Smith, Russell, Hensley, etc.) then you can't admit this.

20 posted on 04/29/2013 1:10:02 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: unlearner

“Rather, most of the historical persecution was directed by Jewish leaders toward both Christ and His followers. Jewish leaders did everything in their power to stop the spread of Christianity both among Jews and Gentiles in the first century.”

I know when the apostles were hiding in the upper room, they were specifically hiding out of fear of the Jews - and they were Jewish. Like the Crusades (in which Christians tried to TAKE BACK Christian lands), it is much more convenient to twist truth to fit an agenda.


22 posted on 04/29/2013 2:08:09 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: unlearner

You are really offensively wrong in the first two paragraphs of your post.

Jews were not welcomed with open arms, they had to be vouched for by other Jews and by the late 30s the doors had closed altogether, not only in the US but all over non-Nazi Europe.

Paragraph 2, let’s just start with the Inquisition, but we could go on for about a thousand pages. The rest of paragraph two is just an insane jumble of nonsense from a clearly addled brain.

After that ridiculous nonsense, there’s not much point in critiquing the rest, although you are right it is clearly true that the first century Jewish governing bodies were not happy about what they saw as a breakaway sect, but by 80 AD, that whole governing body had been destroyed by Rome anyway.

But to some up 2000 years of history by analysing the first 80 and then saying the rest was more of the same, is pretty spectacularly stupid.


35 posted on 04/30/2013 4:43:57 PM PDT by babble-on
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