Posted on 04/07/2013 7:22:38 PM PDT by hiho hiho
An initial question: Whose definition of church are we using here?
And what is that definition, exactly?
Why yours .. of course. :-)
He is using “church” to refer to the “church universal”
You might also read his “about” page —
http://marc5solas.com/about-marc5solas/
Until they settle down and grow up and understand why Mom and Dad went to church.
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Snarky, but you make your point ... for whatever it is worth.
If you want more about this, you may want to consider getting the book “Broken: 7 Rules Every Christian Should Break” by Rev. Jonathan Fisk. He really gets into how Satan uses his lies to get people into false faith.
well I found your ‘question’ kind of snarky. so answer snarky with snarky I suppose :-)
Really? I just wanted to know under what definition we would be operating on this thread so as to know how to respond. No snark. Just looking for clarity. But, if clarity is not desired, so be it.
The question of “church” and what it means is by no means a small matter, as a perusal of ecclesiastical (I know, just a fancy word for church, but one that plainly reveals the original meaning of the word) history will readily make clear. These days among church goers in the USA I don’t think anything can be commonly assumed in regard to understanding and definitions. This is part of the reason we have so many denominations and, even, non-denominational “denominations.” I put the last word in parentheses because non-denominationals seem to believe that because they say they are not denominational, they are in fact non-denominational. I doubt any denomination ever started with a different conviction.
So, again, if that is snark in your book, I guess it is snark in your book.
Have you ever noticed how many hateful atheists there are on the Internet?
Three sons all gone from home, none practicing a faith in Christ, to my knowledge.
Can't disagree with the "reasons", would add some of my own, including a youth minister who was unfaithful to his wife and publicly and painfully resigned, in front of the church and youth.
I don't judge this young man whatsoever, however it is evident that when young people look up to a leader in the church and that leader's sin of adultery follows behind him or her the obvious is going to happen in effect cause disenchantment with the gospel, the church, you name it, among the youth.
My guess is it is because of something called ‘free will’, and the normal tendency of man to hate God. Faith isn’t carried on the X or Y chromosome.
I mean no disrespect. But I really thought you were being flippant. The question was a broad question and wasn’t aimed at any particular denomination ... therefore one would assume it would deal with all churches. Not sure where you are going. I guess you could limit it to what I call real bible-believing churches but even there people have different opinions. That’s why there are 14B different churches :-)
I belong to a very conservative PCA church. My wife is Catholic but has been seeking other churches. This morning I got to go to a new one she is trying out - an Episcopol church. It was OK but I read their intro which says they welcome people of all races and sexual orientation etc. I thought “hear we go”. Then I look up and one of the female deacons is obviously a dyke. There is no other explanation for a haircut that short in the back. Wife prefers a more liberal church so she may stay. I wanted to puke. I’ll stay put where I am. :-) Cheers
thanks for posting.
Went to church & religion as a youth. Got a Bible and started reading it. I soon released I didn’t believe it.
And that’s probably the number one reason people leave the church, They just don’t believe.
So are you a doubting Thomas? Unless you can touch it, you don’t believe??
Do you believe in the sun, the moon, the stars, the conception and immediate soul of a baby??
You can’t touch those things. Yet I bet you beleieve in them.
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