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This topic has been discussed many times on FR. For me, Fr. Hardon's definition could go a little farther.
1 posted on 04/01/2013 8:51:02 AM PDT by Salvation
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Bur then, I suppose the definition would have been a book! LOL!


2 posted on 04/01/2013 8:53:34 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Jesus got half his DNA from Mary. Jesus was without sin. Therefor Mary was without sin. That’s how it seems to me. Case closed, why all the fuss?


4 posted on 04/01/2013 9:05:39 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Salvation

Protestants in general make too little of Mary, Catholics too much.

This falls in the Too Much category that exceeds God’s proclamation of blessed Mary.


5 posted on 04/01/2013 9:28:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Salvation; All

What is it about “the fall” that people don’t get. Mary was a normal young lady, who was a virgin. That does not make her “sinless” .. because .. when Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate of the apple, ALL MANKIND FROM THEN TO THE DAY OF JESUS DEATH, WERE DOOMED TO BE DESIGNATED AS “IN SIN”.

Mary was chosen because she was a virgin, but there was actually another reason too .. God could read her heart, and He knew she loved Him. God already knew she would be willing to be the mother of Jesus; before she was asked .. because God created us with free will and the power to choose .. therefore, Mary had the same opportunity to say NO. Mary’s statement to the angel was, “Be it unto me according to Thy Will”.

The only way a person gets rid of “original sin” is to accept Jesus as their Savior. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY. Mary did not have a way to become a “sinless” spirit person prior to the birth of the child she would carry.

It’s sad that people refuse to accept the truth.

When a person is saved, their spirit becomes renewed; or “sinless”. However, their flesh is still the same old stuff .. and Paul clearly taught us how to deal with our flesh. It’s a choice. Some people make better choices than others.


7 posted on 04/01/2013 10:21:36 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth" (in spite of BO))
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THIS IS IMPORTANT- BECAUSE IF MARY EVER COMMITTED A SIN IT *WOULD*CHANGE*EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!*****

Why do religious idiots discuss this?


11 posted on 04/01/2013 10:56:59 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Salvation

I know there’s nothing I can say that will convince you, but I have to say it nevertheless. Grace is “God’s unmerited favor”, or in other words “I don’t get what I deserve”. For Mary to need God’s grace, she had to be conceived with the original sin just like every ordinary human, and she had sinned during her life. It was because of God’s grace, of which she was full, that she could become the mother of our Savior. Somebody else in this board summarized perfectly by quoting Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”. That’s a pretty simple word, ALL, isn’t it?


14 posted on 04/01/2013 11:20:06 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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19 posted on 04/01/2013 9:17:16 PM PDT by narses
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