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Turin Shroud 'is not a medieval forgery'
telegraph.co.uk ^ | March 28, 2013 | Nick Squires

Posted on 03/28/2013 9:56:57 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

Experiments conducted by scientists at the University of Padua in northern Italy have dated the shroud to ancient times, a few centuries before and after the life of Christ.

Many Catholics believe that the 14ft-long linen cloth, which bears the imprint of the face and body of a bearded man, was used to bury Christ's body when he was lifted down from the cross after being crucified 2,000 years ago.

The analysis is published in a new book, "Il Mistero della Sindone" or The Mystery of the Shroud, by Giulio Fanti, a professor of mechanical and thermal measurement at Padua University, and Saverio Gaeta, a journalist.

The tests will revive the debate about the true origins of one of Christianity's most prized but mysterious relics and are likely to be hotly contested by sceptics.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: shroud; shroudbook; shroudofturin
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To: liege

I wonder what did happen to the cross? But if found, how would you know it was the one used to crucify Jesus?


21 posted on 03/28/2013 11:26:52 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

He has risen indeed.


22 posted on 03/28/2013 11:29:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: liege
It would be the blood of Jesus the Messiah. What would the dna look like?

Perfect.

23 posted on 03/28/2013 11:29:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Lazamataz

Of course.


24 posted on 03/28/2013 11:32:14 AM PDT by bubbacluck (You don't drive out the darkness; you turn on the light.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

My assumption is that it would be genuine.


25 posted on 03/28/2013 11:35:00 AM PDT by bubbacluck (You don't drive out the darkness; you turn on the light.)
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To: liege

Ron Wyatt talking about JESUS blood sample
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EGLPADW_kUw


26 posted on 03/28/2013 11:42:14 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I have figgered it out. The Shroud must be a phony.
We all know that Jesus looked very European with brown light brown hair, blue eyes and very European facial features.
Just like the painting hanging in my church and probably most Christian Churches in the world.
The figure on the Shroud looks like someone from the Mideast.
27 posted on 03/28/2013 11:48:30 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: Tupelo

Chinese Jesus -

http://www.amoymagic.com/XLife/life_aq.jpg

We see Jesus as someone who looks like us. Perhaps He will appear different to us all. I always remember that He healed three blind men different ways.


28 posted on 03/28/2013 11:55:06 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

The “true” cross was said to have been found and retrieved by St. Helena, the mother of Constantine the Great. She died in A.D. 330. She made a trip to the Holy Land in 326-328.


29 posted on 03/28/2013 11:56:46 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: married21
Nobody asks it to cure their cancer or find them a job.

You'd be surprised.........

30 posted on 03/28/2013 11:58:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Red Badger
I would think that venerating a cloth with an image upon it would be in direct conflict with the Ten Commandments.........

Beats "speaking in tongues" and snake handling.

31 posted on 03/28/2013 12:01:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Rich21IE

Interesting. How did they know it was the “true” cross and what happened to it?


32 posted on 03/28/2013 12:03:22 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: UCANSEE2
They really knew how to make things back then.
And it wasn't made by children in a sweatshop.
33 posted on 03/28/2013 12:04:35 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: plain talk

Carbon dating is pretty accurate back to a few thousand years, but none of the radiometric dating methods are “exact” measurements. They all require certain assumptions and predefined reference points in order to make a date estimate.

The problem with the shroud dating is that the assumptions may have been wrong, and then the dating wouldn’t be reliable at all. They assumed that every section of the shroud was original, but some fabric seems to have been added when repairs were made. So, if they tested the repaired portion and assumed it was original, the dating wouldn’t be worth much.


34 posted on 03/28/2013 12:05:50 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

That’s correct. The Shroud was severely damaged in a fire in 1532. It was repaired by a group of nuns called the Poor Clare Nuns and they used patches to repair portions of the cloth damaged by fire. I suspect when they did the first carbon dating, they dated those portions of the newer cloth. The image on the cloth, however, was miraculously untouched by the fire.


35 posted on 03/28/2013 12:18:06 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Revolting cat!

...or drinking strychnine........


36 posted on 03/28/2013 12:32:13 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Red Badger; cuban leaf
"I would think that venerating a cloth with an image upon it would be in direct conflict with the Ten Commandments.."

...he said, while crouched in front of an image on a video display system made of pixels...

37 posted on 03/28/2013 1:27:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin' ." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ouch, that’s gonna hurt! Call the Waaaaambulance!


38 posted on 03/28/2013 1:28:59 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I don’t worship my computer. I am its slave..........


39 posted on 03/28/2013 1:30:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Red Badger
"I don’t worship my computer. I am its slave..."

I've gone off and blackened cooking pots on the stove 'cause I ran back to the Internet to make some wisecrack on Free Republic. Yeah, I render unto my computer burnt offerings...

:o)

40 posted on 03/28/2013 1:34:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin' ." - Yogi Berra)
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