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1 posted on 03/21/2013 2:30:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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(I am not Catholic, so I do not fully understand excommunication)
However, it appears that the Pope has made it clear, support for abortion is grievous enough to deny communion, it would also seem to follow excommunication.


2 posted on 03/21/2013 2:42:51 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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IF this pope is as conservative as some are saying, THEN it should be imperative that he would deal with these miscreants accordingly


3 posted on 03/21/2013 2:44:25 PM PDT by Nifster
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They just took communion at the Vatican this week, so they are probably pretty safe.


4 posted on 03/21/2013 2:54:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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Absolutely, and I’m disgusted that it didn’t happen. All it shows is that these two creeps pushed their thumbs in all Catholics’ eyes . . . and they’re probably still laughing.


5 posted on 03/21/2013 2:56:24 PM PDT by laweeks
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Ask most Catholics on FR, and they'll claim that Biden and Pelosi are already in latae sententiae excommunication from the Catholic Church, for unrepentantly supporting and advancing abortion on demand in this country.

In light of this week's news, the spinmeisters are already hard at work saying that no one at the Vatican knew who they were amongst all the visiting dignitaries who were also offered Communion, and anyway it's okay because the Pope didn't personally give them the Eucharist himself.

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6 posted on 03/21/2013 3:03:16 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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They are not in communion with the Catholic Church and they are already excommunicated. They have already excommunicated themselves by their behavior.
Excommunicated Catholics are still Catholics and remain bound by obligations such as attending Mass, even though they are barred from receiving the Eucharist and from taking an active part in the liturgy (reading, bringing the offerings, etc.). However, their communion with the Church is considered gravely impaired. In spite of that, they are urged to retain a relationship with the Church, as the goal is to encourage them to repent and return to active participation in it.


8 posted on 03/21/2013 3:08:29 PM PDT by badpacifist (I'm criticized but all your bullets ricochet You knock me down, but I get up I'm bulletproof)
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In the words of Joe Biden that would be a.... Oh nevermind...


10 posted on 03/21/2013 3:08:50 PM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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It’s sickening.

But I shouldn’t have expected anything other than business as usual.


13 posted on 03/21/2013 3:17:45 PM PDT by onedoug
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At the very least their respective bishops should explain why they haven’t been denied the sacraments.


16 posted on 03/21/2013 3:32:17 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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I was told by some Catholics on another thread that these evil monsters were already excommunicated.

I guess they were lying to me.

22 posted on 03/21/2013 4:22:15 PM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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The Vatican is using the easy out that people who commit sins worthy of excommunication, “self-excommunicate”. But this is unsatisfactory on all accounts.

Since they have long been apprehensive about chastising political leaders, though they would probably be unwilling, a good way to start excommunication is when the political leader has died.

When asked to justify not burying them in a consecrated Catholic cemetery, they could state that they long ago excommunicated themselves, and never sought redemption. Now the purpose of doing this is obviously not the deceased politician, but the ones still living in sin.

The church should ignore any inquiries as to whether when they die they will be buried with Catholic auspices. Let them sweat about it, and let it be their legacy, that they had fallen from grace and went to their grave unrepentant and without absolution, the blood of innocents on their hands.


25 posted on 03/21/2013 4:26:01 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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I wish someone in a position to do so, would declare that these two, and any who favor abortion, would be considered excommunicated. That is what God would have done if he were here. Read the bible. Jesus was no wimp. He called it like it was. So should we!


26 posted on 03/21/2013 4:27:33 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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Yes

They sure as hell would be chastized at my southern baptist congregation


29 posted on 03/21/2013 4:33:27 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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Under any Popes reign, Pelosi and Biden should be excommunicated.


30 posted on 03/21/2013 4:42:27 PM PDT by Venturer
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Yes. Excommunicate them both, with extreme prejudice.


39 posted on 03/21/2013 8:37:11 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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What they did, sets a very, very bad example to those Catholics who have not gone to confession first and in a special, in this this country.


46 posted on 03/22/2013 8:07:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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