Posted on 03/18/2013 5:39:54 PM PDT by Steelfish
Interactive Graphic: The Story of Every Pope In History, From Saint Peter To Pope Francis
View this interactive graphic with details of every pope in history, from Saint Peter, the first Bishop of Rome and one of the twelve apostles, to the new Pope Francis, appointed on Wednesday.
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You wrote:
“Could be hot down there.”
It’s a shame you won’t be able to let us know if or when you get there and find out first hand. :)
I find myself clinging to His righteousness and His holiness, rather than my own or that of an organization. If that were my destiny, however, then it would be deserved. Grace to you, my FRiend.
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HABEMUS PAPAM!!! (Live Thread)
Jesus was speaking to all the disciples on the north side of the Sea of Galilee when He changed Simon's name to "Peter". They were not in Rome. Peter was blessed for having the inspiration of God to know that Jesus was Messiah. Peter was the rock of the 12 and sent to Jerusalem and then Rome. Just because Peter was called "rock" doesn't mean the other disciples were done, the "church" was all of the disciples, not just Peter.
Now if Peter was meant to take the church to Rome and his successors were to be the sole representatives of Christ, then why was Revelation written by John on the Greek isle of Patmos during the "reign" of Clement I, the fourth "pope"? If Clement I was to be the Vicar of Christ, should not have he write the Revelation of Christ rather than John?
The early Apostles recognized Peter as their earthly authority. 2000 years of Catholic scholars with thousands of agnostic and atheistic converts including Anglicans, Episcopalians, Protestants have all arrived at the same conclusion.
Can you show me an instance where Peter gave an order to any of the other 12? Where I work, I run one of the most difficult machines in the plant but that doesn't make me boss over the other operators. Peter was given the difficult task of Rome, but he wasn't over John or James or the others unless you can give me scripture that says otherwise.
Also, how do you explain why John was given the Revelation of Jesus Christ when Pope Clement I was "reigning"? Why didn't Jesus give his Revelation to Clement I rather than John if Clement I was supposedly Christ's sole representative?
Although Matthew 16 is a central and key passage attesting to Peter’s unique position, the rest of the New Testament provides ample evidence for it. For example:
1. Peter’s name occurs first in all lists of apostles (Mt 10:2, Mk 3:16, Lk 6:14, Acts 1:13), except Galatians 2. Matthew even calls him the “first” (10:2).
2. Peter alone receives a new name, Rock, solemnly conferred (Jn 1:42, Mt 16:18).
3. Peter is regarded by Jesus as the Chief Shepherd after himself (Jn 21:15-17), singularly by name, and over the universal Church, even though others have a similar but subordinate role (Acts 20:28, 1 Pt 5:2).
4. Peter alone among the apostles is mentioned by name as having been prayed for by Jesus Christ in order that his “faith may not fail” (Lk 22:32).
5. Peter alone among the apostles is exhorted by Jesus to “strengthen your brethren” (Lk 22:32).
6. Peter first confesses Christ’s divinity (Mt 16:16).
7. Peter alone is told that he has received divine knowledge by a special revelation (Mt 16:17).
8. Peter is regarded by the Jews (Acts 4:1-13) as the leader and spokesman of Christianity.
9. Peter is regarded by the common people in the same way (Acts 2:37-41; 5:15).
In Acts, Peter gave the sermon at Pentecost (Acts 1:14-36), led the replacing of Judas (1:22), worked the first miracle of the Church age (3:6-12), and condemned Ananias and Sapphira (5:2-11). His mere shadow worked miracles (5:15); he was the first person after Christ to raise the dead (9:40), and he took the gospel to the Gentiles (Acts 10). Peter’s name appears at least 54 times in Acts; James appears a total of four times.
Consensus?
No evidence of being boss of the rest in these scriptures.
3. Peter is regarded by Jesus as the Chief Shepherd after himself (Jn 21:15-17), singularly by name, and over the universal Church, even though others have a similar but subordinate role (Acts 20:28, 1 Pt 5:2).
I'm not seeing Peter being over any universal Church in these. "Feed the sheep" and "feed the lambs" can apply to all the disciples who wrote scripture. Pastors and the laity study all the books of the disciples who wrote books of the bible.
4. Peter alone among the apostles is mentioned by name as having been prayed for by Jesus Christ in order that his “faith may not fail” (Lk 22:32).
Yes and Jesus said to Peter "get behind me Satan" and (paraphrasing) "you're a stumbling block", so Peter seemed to have more trouble with Satan possessing him than most of the other disciples, just like a few popes have to be declared "antipopes", after the damage is done.
5. Peter alone among the apostles is exhorted by Jesus to “strengthen your brethren” (Lk 22:32).
Not proof of authority. Fans can strengthen their favorite sports team through their rooting, but the fans are not the authority of the players.
6. Peter first confesses Christ’s divinity (Mt 16:16). 7. Peter alone is told that he has received divine knowledge by a special revelation (Mt 16:17).
Not proof of authority over the rest.
8. Peter is regarded by the Jews (Acts 4:1-13) as the leader and spokesman of Christianity. 9. Peter is regarded by the common people in the same way (Acts 2:37-41; 5:15).
But does God ever say Peter is the authority over the rest?
In Acts, Peter gave the sermon at Pentecost (Acts 1:14-36), led the replacing of Judas (1:22), worked the first miracle of the Church age (3:6-12), and condemned Ananias and Sapphira (5:2-11). His mere shadow worked miracles (5:15); he was the first person after Christ to raise the dead (9:40), and he took the gospel to the Gentiles (Acts 10). Peter’s name appears at least 54 times in Acts; James appears a total of four times.
Still no scripture that says Peter was boss of the disciples.
You didn't answer my question: If the followers of Peter (the popes) were to be the sole representatives of Jesus Christ throughout time, then why did Jesus Christ give his Revelation to John rather than Pope Clement I who was "reigning" as pope at the time John penned Revelation on Patmos? Why didn't Jesus have Clement write Revelation? Why didn't any of the non-disciple popes write any book of the bible? After all, we had gone through two more popes before Revelation.
So basically, you had a closed mind to begin with and you dispute the tsunami of historical, religious scholars and theologians of over 2000 years. Wow!
Basically, I want scriptural proof that Peter was the authority over the other disciples, and you provided none.
Sure Peter was the first to call Jesus the Messiah, but Jesus didn't say to the other disciples "behold your king" referring to Peter, or anything close to it. Jesus' last words to a disciple on the cross were to John, not Peter, and John was the disciple that Jesus loved, and wrote more books of the bible, and wrote the Revelation of Jesus Christ under the "reign" of Pope Clement I who should have been the sole representative of Christ according to you. Jesus did not tell John to consider Peter his king since he was going away, He only left instructions about Mary.
Jesus did say to Peter "get behind me Satan" showing the fallacy of putting all faith in any man besides Jesus.
Why is there this need for you to seek a king? Remember what God told the Israelites about wanting a king, a king will only multiply his wealth, and we've certainly seen that. The bible is written for all men, and can be understood with guidance from teachers and pastors, no need for one man to claim to be the sole authority on matters spiritual.
...and you dispute the tsunami of historical, religious scholars and theologians of over 2000 years. Wow!
I'm a Protestant, remember. Protestants are like freedom-loving Americans, we don't care as much for the traditions of man or meaningless proclamations, we want to see it in writing in the bible or in the Constitution respectively.
You still didn’t answer my question regarding Revelation above. What’s you explanation on that?
We Catholics call this “Christianity Lite”
No need for Mass, No need for Sacraments, no need to pay attention to centuries of exceptional scholarship theological. Just crack open a bible of your choice, given it your interpretation and do whatever from a Jeremiah Wright to Sharpton to Joel Osteen or why not, your corner street pastor with sunrise services on the beach and call it Protestant “freedom.”
So are you saying that you do not believe in Christ’s questioning Peter and Peter’s answers that are quoted in the book of John? It happened on Easter morning as Christ was standing on the shore and the apostles and disciples were returning empty-handed from a night of fishing.
Peter repents three times — isn’t this in your Bible?
I call what the pope is preaching "Christianity Lite". No discernment, no right, no wrong.
No need for Mass, No need for Sacraments, no need to pay attention to centuries of exceptional scholarship theological.
I listen to teachers, but then check them out.
Just crack open a bible of your choice,...
After discerning which is the most correct.
...given it your interpretation and do whatever from a Jeremiah Wright to Sharpton to Joel Osteen or why not, your corner street pastor with sunrise services on the beach and call it Protestant “freedom.”
Catholics think that Protestants are like them, that if a famous man says something that we're all going to follow lock step like Catholics do with the pope. The whole point of being a Protestant is to protest authority figures when they stray too far from the truth of the Word. So I personally don't care what Sharpton, Wright, Osteen, or the corner preacher says when they stray, they are not my king. My king is Jesus Christ.
I'm amazed to watch lifelong conservatives on this forum who used to like supply-side economics, Rush, and Sarah suddenly turn against them and members of this site just because this socialist pope said to reject their message and embrace the anti-market world view. Individual lifetimes of conservatism shot down the drain all for making a man besides Jesus their king.
Repents? What version are you reading?
Francis is NOT a socialist Pope. We all love Limbaugh but we don’t follow him blindly. Everyone is against crony capitalism and its abuse and misuse like insider trading, pyramid schemes (Bernie Madoff) and currency speculators (George Soros).
So despite 2000 years of scriptural text and scholarly tradition including some of the world’s most renown theologians like Cardinal Newman who converted to the Catholic Faith as well as American most famous Lutheran scholar, we still have remnants of Protestantism go their own way. Oh, how sad. Even Luther himself would be embarrassed assuming he is not in hell for his heresy.
http://www.ad2000.com.au/articles/1991/jun1991p10_706.html
Oh, he is indeed socialist. Every time he opens his mouth, he reinforces it.
We all love Limbaugh but we don’t follow him blindly. Everyone is against crony capitalism and its abuse and misuse like insider trading, pyramid schemes (Bernie Madoff) and currency speculators (George Soros).
Follow blindly?...you should know. lol
So despite 2000 years of scriptural text and scholarly tradition including some of the world’s most renown theologians like Cardinal Newman who converted to the Catholic Faith as well as American most famous Lutheran scholar, we still have remnants of Protestantism go their own way. Oh, how sad. Even Luther himself would be embarrassed assuming he is not in hell for his heresy.
If you Catholics would read the bible once in a while you would know how big of a sin it is to judge someone to hell. Unbelievable.
Do you believe that accepting Peter as the initial official authority is a necessary condition for receiving the grace of forgiveness? Will denying the primacy of Peter condemn an sinner? I invite any professing Catholic to answer because I’ve never, in my life, gotten anyone to answer these questions.
No judging- Just praying for forgiveness.
But as Hillaire Belloc writes in his book “Heresies,” Protestantism was not just a single heresy, it spawned a “cluster” of heresies.
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