Posted on 03/15/2013 4:55:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
The part of verse 24 that you put in boldface--I'm guessing you are saying that Paul is somehow adding to Jesus' work at the cross, but that is not what he's saying. What Jesus did at the cross, he did alone. He did it once, for all. Only He is worthy to make that sacrifice, because He is sinless.
Paul is rejoicing in his afflictions, not because he is adding to, or "helping" Jesus, but because he knows the trials he is going through, as a minister of the Gospel, will help strengthen the faith of the church--the body of Christ. The example of his trials will help fill up what is lacking in the faith of the church.
Matthew 16:18 is misinterpreted by catholics. Peter was another disciple of Jesus like the others.
Jesus’ church, His body of believers, is built on His sacrifice and His revelation to the minds and spirits of believers by the Holy Spirit. He said that Peter was blessed because he received knowledge of who Jesus is through revelation of the Spirit. The Holy Spirit had not yet been given to the saints (who are simply believers in Christ). Jesus was declaring that His church would be based on spiritual revelation from God.
If you look just a few verses later in the same chapter, Jesus rebukes Peter (calls him Satan, in fact) for not accepting that Jesus would have to go through his terrible death to defeat death.
My couple of comments last night were to my husband (who was raised catholic, but is now a Bible-believing Christian instead). I did not intend to argue with catholics, because that only wastes everyone’s time. I don’t intend to argue with catholics today, either—just this comment to you and one other who wrote last night.
So which body of believers do we go to to settle disputes, as Jesus commands?
For Christ's command to make any sense, His Church would have to be unified and visible.
With regard to the office of Peter, check out these verses: Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, and Revelation 3:7
As I said, I’m sorry, but I’m not going to get into debating with a catholic. I believe catholicism is unscriptural in numerous ways, and we will never agree.
People can say whatever they want. Recent history has another story. It is really too soon for anyone to make any judgements, but my family is from Latin America and we know the courage it took for a man like Bogoglio to stand up to dictators and activist clergy. We are gratefull to God, He knows what he is doing. Real Catholics understand that, and others shouldn’t even concern themselves. The Pope is still Catholic. The gates of Hades will NEVER prevail.
https://johnib.wordpress.com/tag/bergoglio-riding-the-bus/
You presume that they want to be back. I think they enjoy perceiving themselves as holier that the pope.
Her market commentary is spot on. The problem with her rants against the church is she operates with a chainsaw when a scalpel would be more appropriate. For example this comment
Jesuits, in addition to being a cult of sodomites who hate God, are also wait for it Marxists.
This statement is plain ignorant. There are many fine Jesuits in the Church but Ann cant, or wont acknowledge that.
Or this one
"He hates and despises the Tridentine Mass, which is to say that he hates the Mass."
Another ignorant statement. Ann needs to stick to market commentary. Her rants against the Church make her look silly.
she may have some good points to moniter.
Name one.
Not necessarily "mean", but clearly misguided.
Anger and "seething, visceral hatred" are not from God.
------------
From anger, hatred, and all ill will,
deliver us, O Lord.
Well then, you're calling the Litany of the Saints wrong.
And did He not also say that He hates sin?
Yes, including the sin of anger.
"Anger and fury are both of them abominable, and the sinful man shall be subject to them." Ecl. 27:33
"But I say to you that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgement. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Matt. 5:22
There is absolutely NOTHING holy, righteous, or prudent about remaining passive in the face of evil.
One must distinguish the difference between "remaining passive in the face of evil" and responding inappropriately to a perceived evil.
"But above all these things have charity, which is the bond of perfection." Col. 3:14
St. Teresa of Avila, a TRUE reformer and a Doctor of the Church, had this to say:
"Charity and obedience... If one of these motives is not involved, I do not hesitate to say that solitude is best."
And finally, from St. Paul: "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal." 1 Cor. 13:1
Disagree. Righteous anger and "seething, visceral hatred" are not the same thing. Any time you use words such as "seething visceral hatred" a little voice in your head should be warning you that these are words that Jesus never would have uttered. To hate the entire Jesuit order and to denigrate our New Holy Father (who has done nothing to deserve our "righteous anger") is just plain wrong.
That is an absolute horrific piece she has written about the Pope - and I like Ann Barnhardt. Talk about slander and detraction. Shame on you, Ann.
The schismatics may well enjoy being holier than the Pope. It won’t be quite as much fun to be that way, though, when the Pope is not paying attention.
Oh, and I thought of a good reason why not to read Barnhardts rant.
When people are so right that they think they are better than the pope, they are dissenters. Reading their stuff is like ingesting poison
I always loved this one...... Catholics drafted and compiled scripture But they’ve unscriptural? I do agree that we will never agree.
"They" told you that, huh?
Pope Francis the real deal has Audience with Cardinals
Pope FrancisThe Journey Begins
Report: Pope Francis bans disgraced Cardinal Law from his church
Pope tells cardinals: discover new ways to evangelize
Does this pope sound like a liberal to YOU?
Pope Francis could renew Catholicism in Americas, says Knights' chief
Letter #47: To Mary (Pope Francis prays at (tomb of Pope St. Pius V) [Catholic Caucus]
Pope To cardinals: Don't Give In To Devil's "Bitterness" And "Pessimism"
Pope Pays His Hotel Bill
Newly elected Pope knows Ukrainian Catholic Church, its Liturgy & Spirituality (Ecumenical)
'Go and Repair My House'
Why Did Pope Francis Go to St Mary Major?
Argentine priest kidnapped in Dirty War reconciled w/ Pope Francis (Don't blame Pope for Pinochet)
Weigel: "Bergoglio is an Old-School Jesuit, Formed by Classic Ignatian Spirituality..."
Vatican Responds to Accusations About Cardinal Bergoglio and the "Dirty War"
Pope Francis Knows What Must Be Done
Pope Francis tied up in Argentina's 'dirty war' debate
Pope Francis and the Traditional Liturgy
Links of Pope Francis to military dictatorship
Cardinal Bergoglio wrote to Fr. Gruner about Fatima [Catholic Caucus]
Why Pope Francis May Be a Catholic Nightmare [barf alert]
Pope Francis I: Its All In the Name
Vatican official: Gay marriage a revolutionary project for complete destruction of the family
Pope Francis, and Blessed Aloysius and Blessed Agnellus: how the saints chose Bergoglio for pope
The Future Pope Francis: Additional Interviews and Writings
Pope Francis Whats in a Name?
Pope Francis Warns Church Could Become 'Compassionate NGO'
Jesuits Surprised that First of Their Brethren is Elected Pope
World Jewish Congress head praises Pope Francis (Jewish-Catholic ties "best in 2,000 years")
How Summorum Pontificum was blocked and trampled on in Buenos Aires
Slaves of the Immac. Heart of Mary Profess Our Filial Submission to Pope Francis (Catholic Caucus)
Gay Advocacy Groups Rush to Demonize Pope Francis
Traditionalists and Pope Francis: Can We Take a Deep Breath and Please Calm Down?
What I would have said at the Consistory: An interview with Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio
Pope Francis Offers His Second Blessing to Pregnant Mom, Unborn Baby
Cdl. Bergoglio's Lenten Letter, 2013
UPDATE: Rorate Caelis diatribe against Pope Francis [Catholic Caucus]
Pope Francis: A Disappointment for Catholics Who Don't Like Being Catholic
Updates on Pope Francis first day as Pope Great moments! (truly humble man)
New Pope Slips Out Of Vatican For morning Prayer Visit
Our First American Pope
Pope Francis I clear on denying Communion to those who facilitate in abortion
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Profession: Servant of the Servants of God
EDITORIAL:Pope Francis I bridges conservative and progressive currents
New Pope Francis called homosexual marriage a machination of the Father of Lies
Pope Francis Is First Catholic Pontiff From The Americas; He Is Known As A Humble Intellectual
New Pope lived simple life in Argentina
"Lowly, And Yet Chosen," Enter Pope Francis (some phenomenal firsts with this election)
10 Facts about Pope Francis
Vatican Web Site Updated
Full Text of Pope Francis Opening Address to Catholic Faithful
9 things you should know about Pope Francis
Pope Francis I promises to be strong pro-life world leader
New Pope celebrated Hanukkah as well as Christmas
New Pope- enemy of Catholic tradition
As Cardinal, Pope Francis condemned abortion even in rape cases
Profile: New pope, Jesuit Bergoglio, was runner-up in 2005 conclave
Jorge Mario Bergoglio elected pope, takes Francis as name
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio: a Profile
HABEMUS PAPAM!!! (Live Thread)
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.