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Ann Barnhardt on Pope Francis
Barnhardt.biz ^ | March 14, AD 2013 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 03/15/2013 4:55:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: don-o
What do you make of this Scripture? Colossians 1:23-25

The part of verse 24 that you put in boldface--I'm guessing you are saying that Paul is somehow adding to Jesus' work at the cross, but that is not what he's saying. What Jesus did at the cross, he did alone. He did it once, for all. Only He is worthy to make that sacrifice, because He is sinless.

Paul is rejoicing in his afflictions, not because he is adding to, or "helping" Jesus, but because he knows the trials he is going through, as a minister of the Gospel, will help strengthen the faith of the church--the body of Christ. The example of his trials will help fill up what is lacking in the faith of the church.

81 posted on 03/16/2013 7:13:15 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Matthew 16:18 is misinterpreted by catholics. Peter was another disciple of Jesus like the others.

Jesus’ church, His body of believers, is built on His sacrifice and His revelation to the minds and spirits of believers by the Holy Spirit. He said that Peter was blessed because he received knowledge of who Jesus is through revelation of the Spirit. The Holy Spirit had not yet been given to the saints (who are simply believers in Christ). Jesus was declaring that His church would be based on spiritual revelation from God.

If you look just a few verses later in the same chapter, Jesus rebukes Peter (calls him Satan, in fact) for not accepting that Jesus would have to go through his terrible death to defeat death.

My couple of comments last night were to my husband (who was raised catholic, but is now a Bible-believing Christian instead). I did not intend to argue with catholics, because that only wastes everyone’s time. I don’t intend to argue with catholics today, either—just this comment to you and one other who wrote last night.


82 posted on 03/16/2013 7:33:44 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina
esus’ church, His body of believers,

So which body of believers do we go to to settle disputes, as Jesus commands?

For Christ's command to make any sense, His Church would have to be unified and visible.

With regard to the office of Peter, check out these verses: Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, and Revelation 3:7

83 posted on 03/16/2013 7:58:36 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

As I said, I’m sorry, but I’m not going to get into debating with a catholic. I believe catholicism is unscriptural in numerous ways, and we will never agree.


84 posted on 03/16/2013 8:20:07 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: haffast

People can say whatever they want. Recent history has another story. It is really too soon for anyone to make any judgements, but my family is from Latin America and we know the courage it took for a man like Bogoglio to stand up to dictators and activist clergy. We are gratefull to God, He knows what he is doing. Real Catholics understand that, and others shouldn’t even concern themselves. The Pope is still Catholic. The gates of Hades will NEVER prevail.

https://johnib.wordpress.com/tag/bergoglio-riding-the-bus/


85 posted on 03/16/2013 10:55:10 AM PDT by mgist
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To: married21

You presume that they want to be back. I think they enjoy perceiving themselves as holier that the pope.


86 posted on 03/16/2013 11:11:44 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Cindy of Nashville
She is right a lot of times

Her market commentary is spot on. The problem with her rants against the church is she operates with a chainsaw when a scalpel would be more appropriate. For example this comment

“Jesuits, in addition to being a cult of sodomites who hate God, are also … wait for it … Marxists.”

This statement is plain ignorant. There are many fine Jesuits in the Church but Ann can’t, or won’t acknowledge that.

Or this one

"He hates and despises the Tridentine Mass, which is to say that he hates the Mass."

Another ignorant statement. Ann needs to stick to market commentary. Her rants against the Church make her look silly.

she may have some good points to moniter.

Name one.

87 posted on 03/16/2013 2:03:31 PM PDT by pegleg (Lies will seek you out, but the truth must be sought.)
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To: fr_freak
you just say "she is so mean!"

Not necessarily "mean", but clearly misguided.

Anger and "seething, visceral hatred" are not from God.

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From anger, hatred, and all ill will,

deliver us, O Lord.

88 posted on 03/16/2013 2:31:35 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
From anger, hatred, and all ill will,

deliver us, O Lord.


You are wrong, there. The Bible is full of instances where God, Himself, was full of righteous anger. And did He not also say that He hates sin?

Ann is right to be angry. I'm angry. Everyone with a brain should be angry at the destruction of our country, the degradation of our culture and people, AND at the blasphemy increasing in the Church and the various churches. Anger is what might motivate us to act. There is absolutely NOTHING holy, righteous, or prudent about remaining passive in the face of evil.
89 posted on 03/16/2013 2:39:05 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
From anger, hatred, and all ill will, deliver us, O Lord. You are wrong, there.

Well then, you're calling the Litany of the Saints wrong.

And did He not also say that He hates sin?

Yes, including the sin of anger.

"Anger and fury are both of them abominable, and the sinful man shall be subject to them." Ecl. 27:33

"But I say to you that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgement. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Matt. 5:22

There is absolutely NOTHING holy, righteous, or prudent about remaining passive in the face of evil.

One must distinguish the difference between "remaining passive in the face of evil" and responding inappropriately to a perceived evil.

"But above all these things have charity, which is the bond of perfection." Col. 3:14

St. Teresa of Avila, a TRUE reformer and a Doctor of the Church, had this to say:

"Charity and obedience... If one of these motives is not involved, I do not hesitate to say that solitude is best."

And finally, from St. Paul: "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal." 1 Cor. 13:1

90 posted on 03/16/2013 3:25:13 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
"From anger, hatred, and all ill will, deliver us, O Lord." You are wrong, there.

Well then, you're calling the Litany of the Saints wrong.


Let me clarify: you are wrong to apply this to Ann's writings. She is merely calling out evil in an unusually blunt fashion. I see far too many people use the "turn the other cheek, anger is wrong" concept as an excuse for complacency or even cowardice in the face of evil. Courtesy toward enemies, taken to an extreme, becomes capitulation.
91 posted on 03/16/2013 3:53:39 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
Let me clarify: you are wrong to apply this to Ann's writings. She is merely calling out evil in an unusually blunt fashion.

Disagree. Righteous anger and "seething, visceral hatred" are not the same thing. Any time you use words such as "seething visceral hatred" a little voice in your head should be warning you that these are words that Jesus never would have uttered. To hate the entire Jesuit order and to denigrate our New Holy Father (who has done nothing to deserve our "righteous anger") is just plain wrong.

92 posted on 03/16/2013 4:43:37 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Cicero

That is an absolute horrific piece she has written about the Pope - and I like Ann Barnhardt. Talk about slander and detraction. Shame on you, Ann.


93 posted on 03/16/2013 5:12:23 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: Straight Vermonter

The schismatics may well enjoy being holier than the Pope. It won’t be quite as much fun to be that way, though, when the Pope is not paying attention.


94 posted on 03/16/2013 7:10:47 PM PDT by married21
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To: fr_freak

Oh, and I thought of a good reason why not to read Barnhardts rant.

When people are so right that they think they are better than the pope, they are dissenters. Reading their stuff is like ingesting poison


95 posted on 03/16/2013 7:42:36 PM PDT by stanne
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To: WXRGina

I always loved this one...... Catholics drafted and compiled scripture But they’ve unscriptural? I do agree that we will never agree.


96 posted on 03/16/2013 8:21:32 PM PDT by STJPII
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To: STJPII
I always loved this one...... Catholics drafted and compiled scripture But they’ve unscriptural? I do agree that we will never agree.

"They" told you that, huh?

97 posted on 03/16/2013 8:37:25 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
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98 posted on 03/20/2013 9:06:19 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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