Posted on 03/13/2013 9:45:40 AM PDT by Colofornian
Free Republic can no longer post Salt Lake Tribune based threads...but we can still link to them. Just last week, the Trib ran this very significant article:
In other words, Mormons are attending Christian church services during Holy Week! (And they love the services there!)
To understand this, you have to understand the backdrop -- the vacuum of Jesus and the cross within Mormonism:
1. BYU study: Disconnect between Mormons and Easter
In this article, published by the Mormon church owned Deseret News, it said that Easter has ”only 'lightly more planning than the Fourth of July,'
2. Preparing for Easter through Holy Week
From this article: While the LDS community does not formally observe Holy Week, the period from Palm Sunday to Easter morning… Suddenly I realized that my observance of Easter was rather pale by comparison…
For a fresh thread, see: Easter essays ['In the LDS church it never really hit me what Jesus did for me']
(Please also review:)
* What is the Significance of Easter for Mormons?
* Mormons have sub-par Easter services [testimony from a Mormon]
* Why don't Mormon's celebrate Easter? [Asked by a Mormon]
* Lent celebrated locally as Easter nears this month [Lent through eyes of Lds journalist]
Few Mormons wear crosses, depicting their aversion to it. For more on this, see:
* No-Cross Protocol ["New" Mormon tradition]
* Sunstone speaker attempts to explain LDS 'aversion' to cross [published by Mormon church owned Mormon Times]
That’s what I hope to provide: access to unknown facts.
And, ol’ JS predicted the rise of the chat room!!!!
It’d cost less for Catholics if they did it like MORMONism does: seniority.
Well...
Reference to Kolob is found in the Book of Abraham.
Figure Joseph Smith Explanation[52] Explanation by non-Mormon and Mormon Egyptologists (quotes are from Deveria)[25][43][53] 1 Kolob, signifying the first creation, nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God. First in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. The measurement according to celestial time, which celestial time signifies one day to a cubit. One day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement of this earth, which is called by the Egyptians Jah-oh-eh. "The spirit of the four elements (according to Champollion), or rather of the four winds, or the four cardinal points; the soul of the terrestrial world. This god is always represented with four rams' heads, and his image has certainly been altered here. — They have also evidently made a very clumsy attempt at copying the double human head of the god figured above, fig. 2, instead of the four rams' heads. The word Jah-oh-eh has nothing Egyptian in it; it resembles the Hebrew word [redacted] badly transcribed." (emphasis in original) The name hieroglyph above the central figure is Chnm-Re, the Egyptian "First Creator" god who organized everything out of the primordial chaos.
1. If you could hie to Kolob In the twinkling of an eye,
And then continue onward With that same speed to fly,
Do you think that you could ever, Through all eternity,
Find out the generation Where Gods began to be?
2. Or see the grand beginning, Where space did not extend?
Or view the last creation, Where Gods and matter end?
Me thinks the Spirit whispers, “No man has found ‘pure space,’
Nor seen the outside curtains, Where nothing has a place.”
3. The works of God continue, And worlds and lives abound;
Improvement and progression Have one eternal round.
There is no end to matter; There is no end to space;
There is no end to spirit; There is no end to race.
4. There is no end to virtue; There is no end to might;
There is no end to wisdom; There is no end to light.
There is no end to union; There is no end to youth;
There is no end to priesthood; There is no end to truth.
5. There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
There is no end to being; There is no death above.
There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
There is no end to being; There is no death above.
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 William Wines Phelps, assistant president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
in Missouri
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Today, William W. Phelps is probably best-known for his legacy of LDS hymns, many of which appear in the current edition of the LDS Hymnal.[6]
A scribe to Joseph Smith Jr., for some time, in late 1838 Phelps was one of several who bore witness against Smith and other leaders, aiding in their imprisonment in Missouri until April 1839. In June 1840, Phelps plead for forgiveness in a letter to Smith. Smith replied with an offer of full fellowship, and ended with the famous couplet, "'Come on, dear brother, since the war is past, For friends at first are friends again at last.'"[4]
It was decided that Phelps, along with Frederick G. Williams, could be ordained as elders and serve missions abroad. Phelps served a brief mission in the eastern United States in 1841. Phelps moved to Nauvoo, Illinois where on August 27, 1841, he replaced Robert B. Thompson (who had died) as Joseph Smith's clerk. Beginning in February 1843, Phelps became the ghostwriter of many of Smith's important written works of the Nauvoo period, including General Joseph Smith's Appeal to the Green Mountain Boys of November 1843, Smith's theodemocratic presidential platform of January 1844, and The Voice of Innocence which was presented to and unanimously approved by the Relief Society in February 1844 to rebut claims of polygamy in Nauvoo arising out of Orsimus Bostwick's lawsuit accusing Hyrum Smith of polygamy and other sexual misconduct with the women of Nauvoo.[5]
Phelps was endowed on December 9, 1843, received his "second anointing" promising him godhood on February 2, 1844, and was also made a member of the Council of Fifty. In Nauvoo, Phelps spoke out in favor of the destruction of an opposition newspaper, the Nauvoo Expositor. He believed that the city charter gave the church leaders power to declare the newspaper a nuisance. Shortly afterwards, the press and type were carried into the street and destroyed. Phelps was summoned to be tried for treason with Joseph Smith at Carthage, Illinois.
During the Mormon Succession Crisis in 1844, Phelps sided with Brigham Young and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. He was again excommunicated on December 9, 1848 for entering into an unauthorized polygamous marriage, but was rebaptized two days later.[citation needed] He took part in the Mormon Exodus across the Great Plains and settled in Salt Lake City in 1849. He served a mission in southern Utah Territory (as counselor to Parley P. Pratt) from November 1849 to February 1850. There he served in the Utah territorial legislature and on the board of regents for the University of Deseret (now the University of Utah). Phelps died on March 7, 1872 in Salt Lake City, Utah Territory. He was buried at Salt Lake City Cemetery.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._W._Phelps_(Mormon)
In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, when a president of the church dies, the First Presidency is dissolved and the members of the First Presidency who were formerly members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles return as members of that quorum. The Quorum of the Twelve, which may number greater than twelve with the returning members from the First Presidency, then becomes the presiding council of the church, with the senior apostle as its president.[34] During this period of time, the President of the Quorum of the Twelve is the highest-ranking official in the church, and has historically always become the next church president.[35] However, this appointment is only made official when the Quorum of the Twelve meets and selects the next president of the church.
err.. didn't God call us when Jesus Christ was here on earth? so in the 1st century AD
This is archaeologically, historically, genetically and linguistically false, utterly false
It may have worked for a con-man in the 1800s before the development of DNA testing, but with the discovery of DNA sequencing, this foundation of the LDS is shown to be utterly false
Oh, and another thing is J Smith's insistence that the "Book of Abraham" was actually of Abraham with Smith's made-up "Reformed Egyptian" -- when the book has been shown to be an excerpt of the ancient Egyptian book of the dead dedicated to Anubis and the "Reformed Egyptian" is false
Well they do it right, unlike the LDS. I mean how is one “elected” a “prophet” by other men...
THX 1138
“It may have worked for a con-man in the 1800s before the development of DNA testing, but with the discovery of DNA sequencing, this foundation of the LDS is shown to be utterly false”
Aw, Cronos, I’m sure you intuitively know the answer.
Mormonism is all about FEELINGS and the ABANDONMENT of fact or evidence-based , objective thought. In fact, the first thing one of their CULTIC missionaries tries to get you to do is LEAVE the *objective ground of Holy Scripture* and accept the *subjective ground of feelings*. They ask you to pray whether mormonic teaching - that contradicts the Bible - is true, based solely on a feeling you might receive.
If you probe any Mormon more than two or three questions deep, you find not history, geology, archaeology, nor Bible, but a feelings based “testimony” that Horndog Smith is a prophet. From that initial abandonment of “loving God with your whole mind”, facts, evidence and logic no longer matter. ANYTHING can be believed - even that they can become a god.
The descent to base emotion is sudden, steep, and unrelenting. It must be obeyed because it is the only foundation they have remaining. It is sad, yes. God still works miracles to reach many caught up in this falsehood. Just look around FR at such a cloud of witnesses we have here - FREE men and women in Christ. Thank God for his grace.
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