Mormons are not generally characterized as promoters of socialism.
On the FR home page, FR is characterized as "Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web". I may find myself corrected, but I don't think Jim wants it to be reduced to a name-calling religious forum, where Evangelicals bash Mormons and Catholics, others bash Jews, etc.
Conservatism is not advanced nor benefited by in-fighting among conservatives on the basis of religion. As far as I'm concerned, if somebody is engaged in opposing socialism and Islamism, then he is my brother, without regard for his religious beliefs (or lack thereof).
Well, you make a good point about those opposing socialism and Islamism.
But the Mormon threads are part of the Religion forum. If you can’t call out a false doctrine there, where CAN you do it?
And I can think of at least one Mormon who promoted socialism. He ran for prez last fall.
“As far as I’m concerned, if somebody is engaged in opposing socialism and Islamism, then he is my brother, without regard for his religious beliefs (or lack thereof).”
Bingo. In a state with freedom of religion, in which we all want to retain freedom of religion, infighting among the religions serves no positive purpose. Jews, Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, Mormons, and Evangelicals share common enemies: Islam and activist atheism. While I, as a Catholic, have many theological disagreements with Mormons, Jews, Evangelicals, and to a lesser degree Orthodox and main line Protestants, I have never and do not see them as enemies, but allies.
Oh?
Christianity is not advanced nor benefited by in-fighting among conservatives on the basis of politics.
I'm sure you will be!
Mormons are not generally characterized as promoters of socialism.
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Unless you know about the Mormon system of “united order”
J.R. has frequently expressed his opinion of mormonism. Surely someone will come up with the quote(s) soon. Here's a hint - it isn't exactly positive.
“As far as I’m concerned, if somebody is engaged in opposing socialism and Islamism, then he is my brother, without regard for his religious beliefs (or lack thereof).”
He’s your brother, whether or not he is fighting socialism and Islamism, and that is exactly why we don’t hold our tongues when we see our brothers falling for false cult religions. If we kept quiet, it would be doing a disservice to them.
Well, that would not be mormonISM.
Mormon scripture Doctrine and Covenants 78:1-12
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1 "The Lord spake unto Joseph Smith, Jun., saying: Hearken unto me, saith the Lord your God, who are ordained unto the ahighpriesthood of my church, who have assembled yourselves together;
2 And listen to the acounsel of him who has bordained you from on high, who shall speak in your ears the words of cwisdom, that salvation may be unto you in that thing which you have presented before me, saith the Lord God.
3 For verily I say unto you, the time has come, and is now at hand; and behold, and lo, it must needs be that there be anaorganization of my people, in regulating and establishing the affairs of the bstorehouse for the cpoor of my people, both in this place and in the land of dZion
4 For a permanent and everlasting establishment and order unto my church, to advance the cause, which ye have espoused, to the salvation of man, and to the glory of your Father who is in heaven;
5 That you may be aequal in the bonds of heavenly things, yea, and earthly things also, for the obtaining of heavenly things.
6 For if ye are not equal in earthly things ye cannot be aequal in obtaining heavenly things;
7 For if you will that I give unto you a place in the acelestialworld, you must bprepare yourselves by cdoing the things which I have commanded you and required of you.
8 And now, verily thus saith the Lord, it is expedient that all things be done unto my aglory, by you who are joined together in this border;
9 Or, in other words, let my servant Newel K. Whitney and my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and my servant Sidney Rigdon sit in council with the saints which are in aZion;
10 Otherwise aSatan seeketh to turn their bhearts away from the truth, that they become cblinded and understand not the things which are prepared for them.
11 Wherefore, a commandment I give unto you, to prepare and organize yourselves by a abond or everlasting bcovenant that cannot be broken.
12 And he who breaketh it shall lose his office and standing in the church, and shall be adelivered over to the bbuffetings of Satan until the day of redemption."
Sounds a lot like Obama to me.
Review the late 19th century multiple "United Order" socialist towns the Mormon leaders ran throughout Utah.
Yeah, the Mormons halted those...but Joseph Smith...in Lds "scripture" (D&C)...referenced them as "everlasting"...therefore, it's not like Mormons can even now bash what Smith called "everlasting."
Those United Orders, btw, had some indirect influence on the formation of Communism in the Soviet Union...via an author who investigated them firsthand...and then whose book influenced the Soviet communistic pioneers.