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Many places claim to be Christ’s Church. Many of them are, and more than a few clearly are not despite their best efforts at verbal and spiritual gymnastics.

It is more than interesting that you so avoid naming your Church specifically and have done so for some time. It is rather an easy thing, people do it every day. One asks of another “What Church do you attend?”, the other replies “Methodist” or “Catholic” or “Baptist” or even “LDS” without all the cute replies and coy answers.

Such actions scream that SOMETHING is up.

As it is you seem to claim no more basis of authority or education than any of the rest of us give or take, so you will excuse us if we take your claims of “teaching us” and exposing our alleged ignorance, especially in light of all the cute games lo these many months with more than a few grains of salt.

A great polymath such as yourself who holds such knowledge and understanding can comprehend our dilemma...

“throughout this discussion I’ve referenced only God’s Holy Word...”

Spirited: A limited deity that emerged over time out of self-generated or so-called pre-existent matter is not holy. And no matter how often one communes with it, it cannot respond because it cannot think, speak, or move since it is a nature deity.

From the Babylonians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Upanishad Hindus, Luciferian Theosophists, high degree Masons, dialectical materialists, Joseph Smith/LDs, and occult spiritist New Age, the worship of matter is a constant. All of these nature systems have exchanged the truth about God for the Lie of matter worship (Romans)

1010RD does not understand Paul’s meaning in Romans. If he did he would see that Paul is describing not just the Epicureans, Stoics, etc. but LDs as well.

If you really seek the living, supernatural Holy Word then you must repent of matter worship and seek Him in communion with true Christians. Doubtless ejonsie would gladly help you in this.

Exactly and few know of the doctrine, hence the need to read God’s Holy Writ. There are those more concerned with “credentials” than with the Bible.

Instead, look to Christ’s example. Which Apostle was a trained theologian? What wages were the Apostles paid? Christ’s Church, if it exists on earth in our day, must follow the plan he set out, not the ideas of men.

What bothers you most is the clarity of the Bible itself. It stands in contradiction of what you want to believe; what you want to be true. You’re unable to refute what you have seen demonstrated because you know it is true, as true as the Holy Bible and God’s own Word. Concentrate on that. Pray on that. Ponder it in your heart and mind.

Stop thinking about anything else. All is fleeting, but the Kingdom of God and His Will be done. Take care, FRiend.