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To: sitetest; TalBlack; St_Thomas_Aquinas; NYer
I remember Southern democrats laughing at Republicans for bringing up the Civil Rights Act over and over because even if it ever pased Jim Crow laws would stay quietly in court and no one would get excited about it or notice. They were positive that no loudmouthed black Baptist would ever win any sympathy from the public because it would all just be quiet Civil fines and legal maneuvers with various businesses sticking to their right to refuse service.

Half the problem is that Conservatives won't get masses of pissed off people in the streets but that's all the left understands.

Fortunately, I feel sure this will be different. There are more than a few Bishops who would very publicly lead demonstrations over those Civil fines and/or asset seizures, and I suspect the crowds supporting them will get very big, very fast. US media or not, the international media will have plenty of "photo ops" with Bishops, Priests, and little old ladies, being arrested or attacked by violent counter-demonstrators.

If history is any guide, though, millions of people who claim to be Conservative Christians will ignore the First Amendment implications and snicker at Catholics getting the shaft from the government. That's they what they did in the 1870s when the Catholic Church warned that public schools rather than a voucher system would lead to a secular, atheist, society where religion would be suppressed by the government.

65 posted on 01/30/2013 9:39:27 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

The Civil War is a good analogy in this matter.


70 posted on 01/30/2013 9:49:44 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Rashputin
Dear Rashputin,

I just don't think so.

As I said, the regime will go into campaign mode and will present it as a question of forcing the patriarchal, woman-oppressing Church to pay for the health care needs of poor, underpaid, oppressed workers and their young children.

When you play the religious freedom angle, you get decent popular response. But when you play the “denial of healthcare,” even the “denial of contraceptives” angle, the Church comes out losing.

And the regime, through the lamestream media, has the loudest megaphone.

As well, the bishops are generally too compromised on the whole question. They're seen as swallowing camels (government-run health care) while straining at gnats (yelling about “religious freedom” over one detail of government-run health care).

It would require large numbers of bishops becoming actually Catholic and calling government-run health care what it is: intrinsically evil.

Perhaps God might bless us with such a miracle. But I'm not bettin’ the farm on it.


sitetest

93 posted on 01/30/2013 3:04:05 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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