[CynicalBear]

Of course that’s what you have been taught. Catholic history is replete with evidence of what they do to anyone who disagrees with their dogma. It’s also a matter of history what they have done to the people they call a heretic.

Let’s put things in perspective here. The Catholic Church has been calling anyone who doesn’t agree with them heretics since its inception. Right here in this forum it’s a rather regular occurrence for Catholics to call anyone who doesn’t agree with the RCC dogma a heretic. It’s also a well known fact that the RCC has dogma that isn’t even in scripture nor is it supported in scripture. Anyone who has eyes to see understands that the Catholic Church controlled “religion” with an iron grip with dire consequences to anyone who dared disagree with them. And anyone who denies that the Catholic Church restrained anyone other than their indoctrinated leadership from access to scripture is simply blind to history.

Luther was called a heretic because after he translated the scriptures from Greek rather than rely on the erroneous Catholic translation into Latin he began to see error in RCC teaching and practice.

Excuses like “these were books that were altered” hold little weight since we have seen that anything that disagreed with Catholic dogma was considered heretical and attempts by the RCC to keep them out of the hands of the public were fierce and deadly. Luther and others who dared to attempt to understand the true intent of the writings of the apostles were threatened at least and often killed. To deny that the RCC restricted the availability of the public to have access to scripture falls on deaf ears with anyone who honestly reads or understands history.

[Cronos]

And it's also a matter of history of what the heretics taught and what those who left orthodoxy, what happened to their theories. Such as your theories, all of these died out, whether powerful like the Arians or Manichaeans or lesser. And now we see the Anglicans and Unitarians and other 1st and 2nd and 3rd generations dying out.

Don't you get it? These philosophies and yours die out, as they are built on sand, not solid bedrock, the solid bedrock of Christ, that orthodoxy is built on

[count-your-change]

I recall one Catholic poster claiming murder and torture was doing Christ's will and a purifying of the faith. Yet according to Catholic doctrine to justify such sins is to share in them.

What can one say in the face of such spiritual aridity.

[Elsie]

Catholic history is replete with evidence of what they do to anyone who disagrees with their dogma.

Yup; they'll befuddle them...

[metmom]

Excuses like “these were books that were altered” hold little weight since we have seen that anything that disagreed with Catholic dogma was considered heretical and attempts by the RCC to keep them out of the hands of the public were fierce and deadly.

I find it very ironic that Catholics should rail against Christians about that when they have translated their Bibles from the Vulgate, making the Catholic Bibles a translation of a translation, and considering the absolute abominable liberties taken in those translations, such as Genesis 3:15 and translating the Greek word for elder as *priest* and then seeing other Scripture posted that contains additions of stuff never found in the Greek.