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To: UriÂ’el-2012

First of all, Mary was not a pagan, but a Jew. She housed the child Jesus in her womb. He was free from sin and she was IN ADVANCE freed from sin when she was chosen to be the Mother of Jesus, God and man, two natures in one person.

Secondly, Catholics do not worship Mary. We ask her to pray for us.


61 posted on 12/09/2012 7:46:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

When it comes to this time of the year, this is one of the things I dread, this old debate about how the Savior Jesus came into the world.


77 posted on 12/10/2012 3:32:04 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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Secondly, Catholics do not worship Mary. We ask her to pray for us.

Catholic pray TO Mary, to provide salvation...

95 posted on 12/10/2012 5:58:18 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Salvation
First of all, Mary was not a pagan, but a Jew. She housed the child Jesus in her womb. He was free from sin and she was IN ADVANCE freed from sin when she was chosen to be the Mother of Jesus, God and man, two natures in one person.

Secondly, Catholics do not worship Mary. We ask her to pray for us.

Clearly you did not read nor comprehend my post.

I never stated that Miriam was a pagan !

Clearly she was a Jewess, chosen by YHvH
to provide the tabernacle for Himself in order
to create His Shekhinah( John 1:14).

However when an organization promulgates
such phrases as MOTHER OF GOD, QUEEN OF HEAVEN
or perpetual virginity, these are PAGAN constructs.

Please see Jer. 7:18; 44:17ff, 25 to see what
YHvH thinks of the phrase "queen of heaven"
A clear reading of Jeremiah will note that
it is a term of Paganism.

Miriam is dead as are all who have gone before us.
I'm sure she was saved when she accepted the opportunity
offered her during Hanukkah, to allow the Light of the World
to enter His Tabernacle. This would have produced Yah'shua's birth
on the Feast of Tabernacles (John 1:14).

Conceived as the light entering the temple (John 10:22 / John 8:12)

I start by reading John 1:14 under the illumination of the Ru'ach HaKodesh.

John 1:14 And the WORD became flesh,
and [fn]dwelt among us,
and we saw His glory,
glory as of the only begotten from the Father,
full of grace and truth.

[fn](1:14) Or, tabernacled; i.e. lived temporarily

σκηνόω Strong's G4637 - skēnoō
1) to fix one's tabernacle,
have one's tabernacle,
abide (or live) in a tabernacle (or tent),
tabernacle
2) to dwell
The word for Tabernacle, mishkan, is a derivative of the
same root and is used in the sense of dwelling-place in the Bible

The verse also provides illumination as to
Yah'shua being the Shekhinah glory.

Shekhinah means the dwelling or settling, and denotes the dwelling
or settling of the divine presence of God, especially in the Temple in Jerusalem.

Here is a very visual source:
Jesus' date of birth

Just based on scripture.

Again the first clue to the birth of Yah'shua is John 1:14 as cited above.

Important events in the life of Yah'shua occurred
on YHvH commanded Feast days as metaphors of the feast.

Conceived as the light entering the temple (John 10:22 / John 8:12)
Born on the Feast of Tabernacles.(John 1:14)
Circumcised on the Feast of Simchat Torah ( Joy of the WORD)
Bread and wine of the Pesach.
Death as the Lamb of G-d on Hag Matzoh.
Rising on the Feast of First Fruits.
Sending the Ru'ach HaKodesh on the Feast of Shavuot(Pentecost).

Who knows if the final trump will occur on the Feast of Trumpets

Seek YHvH in His WORD.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
109 posted on 12/10/2012 9:01:08 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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