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The insinuation of this study is that a person can knowingly, and unrepentantly, lead an abjectly sinful life - like an adult film actress or actor - and yet be spirit-filled.

Those that buy that fiction condemn themselves to eternal separation from God.

1 posted on 11/28/2012 7:02:01 AM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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We all deal with our sinful nature and the Holy Spirit is always in the process of sanctification. Perhaps the Spirit is working on other parts of a sinful nature that have led to the occupation. Perhaps the actress is stuck. Many Christians get stuck.

God’s ways of dealing with His people are not our ways. I would not assume that a porn actress is not a Christian anymore than I would assume someone obese from gluttony is not a Christian.


2 posted on 11/28/2012 7:11:04 AM PST by Raycpa
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Last week I drank a banana flavored milk that was meant for my daughter. :(

I will never do it again. Seriously, the guilt is crushing!


3 posted on 11/28/2012 7:11:17 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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Titus 3:5:

“He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.”

Romans 5:23:

“for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”

That being said, I would encourage the person to seek guidance and deliverance to be set free spiritually by God the Father so they’re not trapped in their sin and subject to the consequences.


5 posted on 11/28/2012 7:22:37 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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The insinuation of this study is that a person can knowingly, and unrepentantly, lead an abjectly sinful life - like an adult film actress or actor - and yet be spirit-filled.

The key word is unrepentant. Obstinacy and impenitence are sins against the Holy Spirit and would be unforgivable objectively speaking.

We cannot judge the heart of others but we can judge their actions and come to a probable and just conclusion.

7 posted on 11/28/2012 7:28:47 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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-1 for Critical Thinking.

Seriously, what about those not leading an ‘abjectly sinful’ life but rather a wilfull sinful life?

You didn’t step out of the box and made it about you, and not the condition, all with just a poor choice of an adjective.

Did you mean to say objectively definition 2: “2. Having actual existence or reality.”


8 posted on 11/28/2012 7:29:35 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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Even IF this study represents truth, which is a big “if,” “spirituality” does not equal “Christianity.”

One can be “spiritual” and engage in Wicca, Islam, New Age religions, Buddism, Pantheism, etc.


10 posted on 11/28/2012 7:35:53 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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Sure, they can be “religious”, or “spiritual”, but they’re probably not Christian.


11 posted on 11/28/2012 7:36:37 AM PST by Boogieman
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A few mentions about bad science.

“That includes a study, published in the journal Science, which asserted that people who believe in God are not analytical thinkers.”

The two pertinent descriptions of the word analytical are first, “separating something into component parts or constituent elements.” This fails for the reason that God, by definition, cannot be separated into component parts or constituent elements. If God can be analyzed in this way, it is not God. However, everything else in reality *can* be analyzed in this way. Religious people have no problem making this distinction. So it can be accurately said that people who *do not* believe in God are incapable of imagining a singularity, God, that cannot be analyzed. It is their deficiency.

“There also was a study, published in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science, which claimed that ‘highly religious’ folk are less compassionate toward the needy than atheists.”

Easily proven as false. Atheists can be “compassionate” and “caring” all day, yet help no one. They may give money to hypothetical charities that help no one. And they may even *define* persuading others to be atheists as being in some way “compassionate.” Personal emotional gratification is not real compassion. And advocating the use of government to harm one group of people to benefit another group of people is not compassion, and, as H.L. Mencken observed, such people are S.O.B.s.

Religious people, on the other hand, by a long way, directly help the needy by giving to *them*, and they do so for both religious and altruistic reasons. They neither seek to control or dominate those they provide charity, which is another positive trait.

“Now comes yet another study, published this week in the Journal of Sex Research, which claims that adult film actresses are actually more religious than women who don’t get paid to.”

This is little more than hypocrisy, guilt, and rationalization balled up into one. Such women know what they are doing is physically and spiritually and psychologically wrong and damaging. So they first try to justify their actions, then try to overcome their deep and abiding guilt, and are finally hypocritical about the whole thing.

It has long been known that one of the biggest reasons for prostitution is that prostitutes are often “attention junkies”. They invariably insist that they do not like being prostitutes, and want to get out of the business; but they just cannot escape the attention they are given by others. Pimps are expert in doling out attention, and it doesn’t matter if the attention is bad or good; beating them one minute and dancing with them the next.

There is an easy cue to the very low self esteem and craving for attention in such women. Excessive finger rings and tattoos are often sure signs.

In Europe, where prostitution is often legal, many prostitutes are devout church goers. This does not mean that they are spiritual, just that they are filled with guilt and endless promises to themselves to stop doing what they do. They rarely quit until they are too old and ugly, then they are discarded.


12 posted on 11/28/2012 7:36:46 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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We are called to judge our Fellow Christians by thier actions ~~ Fruit inspector

The non Christians are doing what non Christians do by nature SIN... They need Jesus So our only judgement of the non Christian is if they are saved or not...


13 posted on 11/28/2012 7:43:09 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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here comes the “Oh God” jokes.


14 posted on 11/28/2012 7:48:56 AM PST by MNDude
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Why would they want to be?


15 posted on 11/28/2012 7:51:43 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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Long ago I attended a very legalistic evangelical church...I can EASILY see how that church and its attendees get called judgmental and more. Many Christians are guilty of both hypocrisy and judgementalism when they relate to the world. We have but to look at Christ and how He handled the woman at the well to know how to deal with someone in sin...You do so in love. Lost on a lot of folks.

HOWEVER,

The left in this country, the ones who are decidedly not Christian and fight against it in nearly every way, both openly and quietly (when needed) support the subversion of Christianity for their own purposes. I call out any Christian who calls themselves a Christian to explain to me how they are indeed a Christian and God agrees with them practicing homosexuality and that it is NOT a sin...or that abortion is NOT a sin, or any other clearly defined sin is NOT a sin but they are indeed Christians with nothing wrong between them and God. THATS the problem.

The left LOVES to judges us with our own faith and at the same time use perversion of that faith to justify themselves to others...like their ridiculous use of “Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice.” It is used to disarm arguments against them. The homosexual agenda has been well served by subverting many denominations solely to be USED as the useful idiots they are for supporting their lifestyle choice. it has clearly worked well for them.

What the left does not want is any form of absolute or any form of judgment of their lifestyle. they do NOT want accountability as it REQUIRES of them a thing they hate when caught...responsibility. Whether it is the creation of another “inconvenient human being” or the fact that they got caught cheating on a commitment (many on the right guilty as well) but the institutionalized way of resisting is on the left far more than the right. The fact remains...they do it this way to gain earthly approval and justification for the life the CHOOSE to lead. Nothing more.

19 posted on 11/28/2012 7:57:15 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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Indeed, for those who blindly accept its findings...

...should ask what is meant by "religious" or "highly religious" or "spiritual" or whatever other terms are being used that we assume everyone else has the same interpretations that we do.

What criteria do these studies assume or use to assess living/being/thinking as a religious person or as a spiritual person or as a Christian person?

Can a Christian be a Christian by claiming to have Jesus as their personal savior and/or claiming allegiance to a church, but break each and every one of the 10 Commandments on a regular basis?

If I am to go forth and sin no more, but go forth and sin as before or as if there is no tomorrow, what am I then with my claims of Jesus and church attendance?

Never underestimate the human ability to rationalize ANYTHING, any behavior, attitude, whatever, good, bad or otherwise, especially "in the moment" but also after the fact.

20 posted on 11/28/2012 7:59:53 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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It depends. Does it count when she is on her back screaming, “Oh God, yes! yes! Oh, God... YES!!!!”


21 posted on 11/28/2012 7:59:59 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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porn actresses had higher levels of…spirituality compared to the matched group.

Satan, too, is a spirit. Perhaps they are more "spiritual", but that doesn't mean that they have come to a saving rrelationship with Christ.

And if they have, obviously they are ignoring the promptings of the HOly Spirit.

22 posted on 11/28/2012 8:00:29 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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I commend anyone wanting an answer to this question to Dostoyevsky’s “Crime and Punishment.”


25 posted on 11/28/2012 8:20:19 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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That includes a study, published in the journal Science, which asserted that people who believe in God are not analytical thinkers.

Tell that to St Thomas Aquinas, whose approach to analytical thinking and the dialectical method approaches Spock-level, if not surpassing it. One might not agree with his conclusions (or even some of his premises), but there's no denying that the man was a rigorous thinker.

Or St Augustine.

Or Professor Einstein.

I would myself assert that people who believe that people who believe in God are not analytical thinkers are themselves not thinking analytically but uncritically regurgitating commonplace bromides produced by amateur intermalekshals who fondly want to believe that merely holding certain opinions automatically either excludes one from consideration as a human being, or else elevates one to unassailable empyrean heights beyond reproach or criticism.

In thinking circles, this is called "being lazily and intolerantly (as well as intolerably) stupid."

26 posted on 11/28/2012 8:26:29 AM PST by Dunstan McShane
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Matthew 21:31

The Parable of the Two Sons

28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’

29 “‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.

30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go.

31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?”

“The first,” they answered.

Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.


31 posted on 11/28/2012 9:16:16 AM PST by tired&retired
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While I’m sure, using one’s own definition and beliefs, this is easily determined, Isn’t this really be up to God and that individual?


32 posted on 11/28/2012 9:16:54 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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Can you still claim to have “freedom of religion” once you start putting restrictions on who’s allowed to be religous?


33 posted on 11/28/2012 9:18:38 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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