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To: CatherineofAragon; dmz
CofA: "Open systems exchange matter and complexity, but raw energy can't generate the specified complex information in living things, and undirected energy does nothing but speed up destruction."

"raw energy"? "undirected energy"?
These words have nothing to do with the real questions, which involve the long-term effects, over billions of years, of conditions (sunlight, temperature, water, organic chemicals, etc.) which are ideal to sustain life-as-we-know-it.
Are these same conditions adequate to create simple life-as-we-define-it from complex organic pre-life chemistry?

Answer: hypothetically, yes, but this is not yet confirmed, and represents only one idea among several of how life originated on Earth.

51 posted on 11/20/2012 7:05:27 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
"Are these same conditions adequate to create simple life-as-we-define-it from complex organic pre-life chemistry?"

The answer is no.

There is no such thing as "simple life"; even a single-celled amoeba is incredibly complex. It simply could not be produced by chance, no matter how much time nor how many elements were involved. Richard Dawkins, the atheist, admitted that one cell's DNA contains about 4000 books of 500 pages each of information. Put another way----if a modern hard drive were to have the same “data density” as a cell’s nucleus, one typical hard drive would be able to store almost 6.9 × 1013 GB of data. That’s the equivalent of all the data on the internet 140 times over.

Logic, and simple common sense, show us this is not chance, but the product of design.

53 posted on 11/20/2012 7:22:47 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: BroJoeK

Organic chemicals require organs to create them. Organs require a creator to design and then create them (intelligence)


84 posted on 11/21/2012 1:35:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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