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To: BroJoeK
"Are these same conditions adequate to create simple life-as-we-define-it from complex organic pre-life chemistry?"

The answer is no.

There is no such thing as "simple life"; even a single-celled amoeba is incredibly complex. It simply could not be produced by chance, no matter how much time nor how many elements were involved. Richard Dawkins, the atheist, admitted that one cell's DNA contains about 4000 books of 500 pages each of information. Put another way----if a modern hard drive were to have the same “data density” as a cell’s nucleus, one typical hard drive would be able to store almost 6.9 × 1013 GB of data. That’s the equivalent of all the data on the internet 140 times over.

Logic, and simple common sense, show us this is not chance, but the product of design.

53 posted on 11/20/2012 7:22:47 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
It simply could not be produced by chance, no matter how much time nor how many elements were involved.

That same idea can be found in Darwin's "Origin" and Steve Jones' "Darwin's ghost." Both books include four chapters (on geography) about our 4.5 billion year old planet.

54 posted on 11/20/2012 7:44:35 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: CatherineofAragon
A species of amoeba can have a genome over 100 times larger than a human being. Only someone ignorant of biology would consider it a form of “simple life”.

Is your faith contingent upon scientists not being able to make simple life forms from raw elements and energy? So long as that bar has not been cleared you have faith, but when and if they ever do - your faith is shaken?

If the raw elements of the universe can produce replicating complex systems then once again I stand in awe of the laws of the universe set down by the ultimate law giver.

The complexity of life is just another gap in human knowledge that “god of the gaps” theologists want to fill with miraculous intervention. That hasn't had a very successful history and is rather shoddy theology.

55 posted on 11/20/2012 8:03:06 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: CatherineofAragon
CofA: "The answer is no.
There is no such thing as "simple life"; even a single-celled amoeba is incredibly complex."

But there are many forms of simpler "life", or "pre-life", or "not-quite-life" -- among which viruses, and that prion which may or may not cause mad cow disease, come to mind.

Physical evidence, from Canada and elsewhere shows earliest pre-life residue dating back over 4 billion years.
Evidence of the first simple cells comes from rocks a billion years younger.
Mulitcelled creatures came two billion years after that, etc.

So none of this happened overnight.

57 posted on 11/20/2012 8:48:46 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Richard Dawkins, the atheist, admitted that one cell's DNA contains about 4000 books of 500 pages each of information.

If that impresses you, so should this from Steve Jones:

"About a thousand genes are shared by every organism, however simple or complicated. Although their common ancestor must have lived more than a billion years ago, their shared structure can still be glimpsed. It shows how the grand plan of life has been modified through the course of evolution."

Source: "Darwin's Ghost," page 284.

60 posted on 11/20/2012 9:48:36 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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