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It's Halloween, Let's All Idol-Worship Tonight!
The Jewish Press ^ | 10/31/'12 | Tzvi Fishman

Posted on 10/31/2012 10:31:16 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

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To: cripplecreek

I think you missed a very important distinction here...

For Hitler, it was a matter of removing the “pollution” from society, and liquidating those who “caused” the “pollution.”

In the case of Halacha, since Jews have been dispersed around the globe since biblical days, the law was designed to keep Jews from participating in the local religious festivities and losing their Jewish religious identity.

In other words, you’re equating Hitler’s espousing of exterminating those with whom he disagrees to a religious sect keeping itself separate from society, much like the Amish.

Mark


81 posted on 10/31/2012 12:33:08 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord.

I am the way, the truth and the life.
Jesus was :
A liar, a lunatic or is Lord. Eternity is an awful long time if you get that wrong zionist conspirator..


82 posted on 10/31/2012 12:34:11 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Good post.


83 posted on 10/31/2012 12:38:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

And let’s not forget the dastardly trade of Tim Tebow, to NY, when Elway had a better trade to Jacksonville, who would have actually started him.

The machinations of the evil doers is wide and expansive.

Booo !


84 posted on 10/31/2012 12:39:24 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: KC_Lion

If we can celebrate the Jewish Holiday of Baseball, I have no problem with Jews celebrating Halloween or Christmas.

In any case I suspect God is OK with anything that brings us together.


85 posted on 10/31/2012 12:43:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Salvation

Good post???

FRiend, please re-read this. And ZC’s comments. This is NOT about Halloween in as much as it is an attack on American traditions and Holidays. And Christianity.

And especially at how “Chr*st is a false “gxd”

(post 20)


86 posted on 10/31/2012 12:43:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: rbmillerjr
We are dealing with a subversive in the WH, who needs to be defeated and I find your arguments peripheral at best.

(Except the same reasons many are voting for Romney -- anti-Obamaism -- anti-liberalism -- anti-socialism...could be applied toward Romney in over 40 states...minus having Obama re-elected)

Even Colorado has swing from swing state to Romney camp...polling wise...

Meaning that if only the TRUE purple state voters voted anti-Obama, Obama need not be re-elected and we don't (at least in over 40 states we wouldn't) have suddenly all these...
...pro-life voters voting for a pro-abort...
...anti-socialist voters voting for a socialist healthcare pioneer (RomneyCare)...
...Christian voters voting for a guy committing idolatry by claiming he's a rival god to THEIR ultimate God...

87 posted on 10/31/2012 12:44:05 PM PDT by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: rbmillerjr

Hmmmm - NY certainly has felt the wrath of importing their false god, have they not? Five losses, and an exclamation point named Sandy, for those who weren’t watching....


88 posted on 10/31/2012 12:45:02 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: rbmillerjr
I’m not interested in anti Mormon...a possible radical Muslim...get elected...

(Yeah, we know...Mormonism, per you, is politically correct 'round here...Islam, of course, isn't...)

89 posted on 10/31/2012 12:48:42 PM PDT by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

“It riles them to believe...

you have perceived.

The Web they have drawn for you”


90 posted on 10/31/2012 12:49:11 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; cripplecreek; rlmorel; dadgum; Fiji Hill; delchiante; Responsibility2nd; ...

The author of the posted article was talking to Jewish people. IMO, it’s also a good message for Noachide followers like myself. We believe in only One G-d, with no partners, associates, other additives or piles of metaphors about the issue. That’s the First Law for us all (of the Seven Noachide Laws).

Zionist Conspirator: isn’t it true, that we have no commandment to proselytize to or convert Chr*stians or others who believe in multiple deities, associates, whatever? At the same time, some of them shouldn’t be so pushy, publicly insulting and threatening about their Greco-Roman/European religion.

As for the USA, the first Americans (Puritans and other real Protestants) rejected Halloween and other beliefs of official European religion. There are also the First Amendment and various declarations from the first Americans against European religious edicts (see English Civil War, other conflicts).


91 posted on 10/31/2012 12:51:40 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The premises of your argument are now hidden. That's unfortunate.

Now, as to this: Then it's [Christianity] a false religion.

Says you.

The Incarnate Word of God says:

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "

and

“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!

Hmmmm ...

Seems to me, I can either listen to God Himself, or listen to Random Internet Dude.

Easy choice.

Now ... you could retort the same ... that you have a choice between "G_d" (sic) and Random Internet Dude ...

And you'd be right.

We can't both be correct, here. At least one of us is wrong theologically.

I'm convinced it's you.

92 posted on 10/31/2012 12:55:09 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: familyop

There is only one Way to the Father.


93 posted on 10/31/2012 12:56:07 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: carolinablonde; Zionist Conspirator
Ok, so if no new holidays are supposed to have been established since Moses received the commandments on Sinai, then how do you explain these:

Actually, those are all secular "holidays." On the other hand, if you're not misinterpreting what ZC said, then it seems that Chanukah, Purim, and Tisha B'av, which are religious holidays, but the events the holidays are based on happened long after The Lord handed down The Torah, shouldn't be celebrated.

Just a thought...

Mark

94 posted on 10/31/2012 1:01:28 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL; carolinablonde
Actually, those are all secular "holidays."

The article mentions not observing holidays such as July 4th, Memorial Day (USA), and Groundhog day as well.
95 posted on 10/31/2012 1:04:34 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Colofornian

In the Old Testament Almighty G*D used a Jackass, Several Heathen Monarchs(Nebercanezer(sp/), Cyrus the Great, and Darius, don’t YOU think that Almighty G*D can used EVEN a Misguided MORMAM to do his work?


96 posted on 10/31/2012 1:05:20 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa; cripplecreek; F15Eagle; Gamecock
"There is much you don't understand about the Jewish religion. For example, did you know that Rabbis can date?"


97 posted on 10/31/2012 1:06:05 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Romney/Ryan 2012)
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To: Larry Lucido
For example, did you know that Rabbis can date?"

Well if they didn't, where would all the little Rabbis come from?
98 posted on 10/31/2012 1:08:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The premises of your argument are now hidden. That's unfortunate.

?

Now, as to this: Then it's [Christianity] a false religion.

Says you.

Was it authorized at Sinai? Yes? No?

The Incarnate Word of God says:

Just how do you know this? Because it's a claim of chrstianity and you identify with chrstianity for cultural or traditional reasons? What makes you think that chrstianity's claims are self-verifying?

Your arguments are really no different from those of a KJV-only Fundamentalist Protestant to whom the claims of (or about) the KJV are self-affirming and have no need of external evidence.

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "

and

“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!

And these claims are self-affirming? To make them is to prove them?

Hmmmm ...

Seems to me, I can either listen to God Himself, or listen to Random Internet Dude.

Easy choice.

Look . . . I know where you're coming from. But you must realize that this line of argumentation is beneath you. Chrstianity doesn't listen to G-d. It listens to a man who claimed to be G-d in whose name the Holy Torah was (G-d forbid!) abolished and replaced with a new one. Your utterly cavalier attitude towards the Revelation at Sinai simply makes no sense (unless you have excised it from your beliefs). There is no "new testament" in my Bible. There is most certainly an "old testament" in yours. Your ignoring it to merely parrot the claims of chrstianity as if they were self-evidently true is childish.

Now ... you could retort the same ... that you have a choice between "G_d" (sic) and Random Internet Dude ...

And you'd be right.

We can't both be correct, here. At least one of us is wrong theologically.

I'm convinced it's you.

You're "convinced?" I have no doubt that you believe it is I who am in error, but I do doubt that you are "convinced." How many chrstians have ever even considered the claims of their parent religion? Probably no more than you could enumerate on the fingers of one hand.

Chrstianity may cream paganism (which it indeed fulfills, adopting its calendar and holidays), but it's never been able to win an argument with Judaism. RaMBa"N wiped the floor with chrstians in medieval Spain.

It's one thing when two religions claiming two separate revelations claim to be true. It's quite another when one religion acknowledges the other and then adds to it. I doubt you've ever given the issue of whether this was called for very much thought.

Good gravy how one little anti-"halloween" thread has been seized on and diverted. I wonder if this is happening to Fundamentalist Protestant anti-"halloween" threads?

99 posted on 10/31/2012 1:09:03 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Lurker
Some people are simply the sworn enemies of fun.

Indeed. No one is worshiping demons( that I know) It is all in good fun. Some people need to get a life.

100 posted on 10/31/2012 1:12:07 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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