Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian
The daughter of a Latter Day Saints bishop and author of a book on Mitt Romney’s Mormonism says that she has concerns about a Romney presidency.
Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either.
“To me, as a conservative, a Republican and a Christian, I cannot justify a vote for either one of the Obamney baby-killing, annihilators of the family, government healthcare mandated to take over our economy socialist evil twins – and be right with our Creator,” she wrote.
Erickson pointed out that neither seek to ban abortion, and both have shown support for homosexuality.
“Republicans say that they have to vote for Romney because we are losing our country to socialism and after another four years of Obama, there will be nothing left of America. I can’t say that I disagree,” she said. “However, what is never talked about is that Romney has his own goals for the Mormon Church [and] The Mormon Plan for America, and while he is cunning and a good debater, he lacks the judgment to discern that he will not become a ‘god’ in his next life and receive his own planet.”
Erickson has been making the rounds on various talk shows and has been featured in news publications for at least the past year, discussing her concerns with Mormonism and a potential Romney presidency.
“While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes,” she wrote in her book Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America.
“It’s like our eyes are glazed over when it comes to the religion of Mitt Romney,” Erickson told talk show host Thomas Hartmann in further discussing the matter. “If you just knew what Mitt Romney believed, you would run far away from this candidate.”
Erickson states that she grew up in a devout Mormon household, and was even married in the LDS temple according to mandated rituals. However, she laments many things that she observed and was subjected to.
“It was horrific,” she told WND. “There I was standing naked [at my wedding]. They brought this bowl of water and started washing my body down, and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.”
Erickson stated that because Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon, he espouses beliefs that are very concerning, including that Jesus was not born of a virgin, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, and that Romney will one day become one of many deities.
“Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven,” she said. “He is going be given his own kingdom/planet. He will be able to call his wife Ann by the secret name that is only given to him in the Mormon secret ceremonies … When he calls her on to his planet, they will have relations to populate the planet with spirit children, as they believe our God has a wife on His planet, and He did the same, and they believe that we are our God’s spirit children from our god mother and god father.”
“So, all of us here on earth, we existed in a pre-existence with God as a spirit baby, then we came down and inhabited these little babies’ bodies that are here on the earth,” Erickson continued, explaining LDS beliefs. “[This was done] so that we could go through our process to venture into godhood.”
She said that there has been a longstanding agenda in the LDS establishment to place Mormons into governmental offices.
“[The LDS establishment has] been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on earth,” Erickson explained.
“They believe that when Jesus comes back to earth in the millennium, that He’s going to come to Jackson County, Missouri, which that’s where they believe the Garden of Eden is,” she added.
Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”
“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”
Erickson said that in Mormon ceremonies, participants must swear to keep secret what goes on behind closed doors. She advised that in rituals that she was involved with, she observed people being forced to make gestures signifying their death if they revealed what takes place.
“They actually had us [symbolically] slashing our guts open and our guts falling to the ground if we told people of the secret dogma of the ceremonies,” she stated.
When asked how Erickson knows that Romney espouses these same beliefs, she replied that Romney has long had high ranking in the LDS establishment, holding office as bishop like her father, and working as a Mormon missionary in France for a time.
“You cannot get more Mormon than Mitt Romney,” she stated. “And I have been through the same temple ceremonies … to follow the church first before anything else.”
“To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the resurrection [of Jesus] can be made to look silly, too,” Romney told CNN last year after being informed of Erickson’s writings and speeches against him.
Because of these concerns, in Erickson’s article this week, she noted that many will vote third party this year or skip the presidential race on the ballot.
“Some have said that they will simply not vote for either establishment candidate, [but] instead, in protest, will write-in another name or candidate if they will vote at all,” she wrote. “I, and approximately 90 million Americans, agree with Charles Spurgeon who says, ‘Of two evils, choose neither.’”
Sorry, but protectors of Obama don't tend to assail him as I did there...
Better try another angle.
I am sorry that I ever posted to you. I can see there is no reasoning with a real Romney hater.
Waste your vote any way you like it is your right to do so.
We will win despite you.
More tiresome attacks.
No.
But I wouldn't have expected McCain or Sarah Palin to proclaim they were "gods in embryo," either.
Nor would it have been very "inspirational" for Christians, either, if McCain or Palin's religion had condemned Christians the same way that the sacred "scriptures" of Mormons specifically do!
Snapshot of Joseph Smith’s Slanderous Invectives vs. Christian Sects |
Mormon Source[Note: Most of these are Mormon ‘scriptures'. In fact, First three rows below are Lds 'scripture' & therefore cannot be rug-swept any more than a Jew might try to take three commandments off of the very tablets of stone Moses brought down from the mountain] |
| “...which of all the sects was right… must join NONE of them, for they were ALL WRONG… those professors were ALL CORRUPT…” | Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price |
| ...“which of all the sects was right…ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight…they teach for doctrines the commandments of MEN…” | Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price |
| Mormon church the only ‘Christ-sanctioned’ church on earth: “…the foundation of this [Mormon] church…the ONLY true and living church on the face of the whole earth” [Obvious ‘scorched earth’ implication: All other churches are false and dead] | Lds “scripture” Doctrines & Covenants 1:30 |
| Direct question asked of Joseph Smith: 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?" Answer from Lds "prophet" Joseph Smith: 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." | Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119 [Not “scripture” – but still publicly spoken by the Mormon ‘living prophet’ and published by a later Mormon ‘living prophet,’ Joseph Fielding Smith – via a publisher owned by the Mormon church – Deseret News Press, 1938] |
| “In 1952…the first official proselyting plan was sent to missionaries throughout the world…It included seven missionary discussions that emphasized…[four topics, one of them being]…THE APOSTASY and Restoration…” [This makes it 60 years that Mormon church missionaries, now numbering 55,000, have formally emphasized in its training & door to door saturation a priority in bashing the worldwide Christian church as “apostates” (100% AWOL)] | Our Heritage: A Brief History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints p. 116, 1996 |
I stand corrected: “simpleton” does, in fact, begin to define your mental state.
It should be followed by “fanatical”, however.
Try coffee in the a.m. then...
I dont know about this claim. I do wedding videos as part of my business and have done a Mormon wedding at the gorgeous Mormon temple in Columbus and the bride went in to the temple all dry and made up in a big dress and came out about 45 min or so later (we were not allowed in the temple, made my job easier) looking dry and untouched, just happy. Granted, i know very little of the Mormon faith but i call bullpatties on this story.
(Well, like I said in post #14, FREEPER voters in about 43 states won't even -- or don't even -- need to contribute to that "win" you're talking about...all except the swing states...FR voters in some 43 states won't have a bottom-line effect)
Just because Romney doesnt go around publicizing the good deeds he’s done doesn’t mean he hasn’t done them. In the bible it clearly states not to.boast about the “works” you have done to other men. Now another politician we all know likes to claim responsibility for things he hasn’t even done (just ask Seal Team 6):
I’ll take a Godly man with values over a Muslim president that has removed God from the Pledge of Allegiance, an American flag pin from his lapel, and forced people to pay a mandated unprecedented tax against the American people’s will any day.
Here's the difference: we are at war with Islam (whether Western governments choose to admit it or not). Therefore any indication that an American official may be a closet Muslim also indicates that he would be a closet traitor, because a Muslim may not take the side of infidels against fellow Muslims.
Conversely, I don't see how being a Mormon would lead one into treason against the United States. Perhaps you could explain some scenarios if you disagree?
Try another angle? Why? Because you equivocate Mormonism with Islam and so consider that as a great argument to hide behind as you post your anti-Mormon threads?
Sorry, YOU try again. Obama DENIES his ties to Islam. Romney does not deny his ties to the Mormon religion. Therefore it is only right that Obama's ties to Islam continue to be investigated.
Continue to use that stupid argument if you wish as you protect your boy Obama but don't insult our intelligence by trying to justify it as "well everybody else does it".
Sounds a lot like what you're doing with Romney's conscience
PLEEEEEEEEASE............... take the damn nobama propaganda back to DU!
This election is too important to listen to someone you knew in 3rd grade’s 2nd cousin who drove past an LDS church on time..
Yup. I’d guess that if Romney were to try to install a Mormon theocracy the six Roman Catholics and three Jews on the Supreme Court would take issue with it (ok, maybe five Roman Catholics since Roberts would probably find some incredibly convoluted reasoning to allow him to support a major Presidential initiative)
In stark contrast to biblical truth, Billy Graham has also said this:
“I used to believe that pagans in far-off countries were lost—were going to hell. I no longer believe that. I believe that there are other ways of recognizing the existence of God—through nature, for instance.” (McCall Magazine Jan. 1987).
“I respect other paths to God,” (Billy Graham, Parade Magazine, Oct 20th 1996)
And then on Robert Schuller’s “Hour of Power” he had this exchange:
Dr. Schuller: “Tell me, what is the future of Christianity?”
Dr. Graham: “Well, Christianity and being a true believer, you know, I think there’s the body of Christ which comes from all the Christian groups around the world, or outside the Christian groups. I think that everybody that loves Christ or knows Christ, whether they’re conscious of it or not, they’re members of the body of Christ. And I don’t think that we’re going to see a great sweeping revival that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. What God is doing today is calling people out of the world for His name. Whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world, or the non-believing world, they are members of the body of Christ because they’ve been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus, but they know in their hearts they need something that they don’t have and they turn to the only light they have and I think they’re saved and they’re going to be with us in heaven.”
Dr. Schuller: “What I hear you saying is that it’s possible for Jesus Christ to come into a human heart and soul and life even if they’ve been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you’re saying?”
Dr. Graham: “Yes it is because I believe that. I’ve met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations that they have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, have never heard of Jesus but they’ve believed in their hearts that there is a God and they tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived.”
Dr. Schuller: “This is fantastic. I’m so thrilled to hear you say that. There’s a wideness in God’s mercy.
Dr. Graham: There is. There definitely is.”
I would love to hear him explain why he believes he is smarter than the writers of Holy Scripture. I would also like an explanation for why his organization has deleted all references to the LDS as a cult from their website. Do they stand for the gospel truth or not?
Then why has he allowed the Church of Latter-Day Saints to survive and thrive?
I'm a Catholic, and I'm pretty confident your sources also have a long, wordy discourse on why I'm going to Hell because of my faith. But, I'm supporting Mitt Romney whole-heartedly, as are millions of other conservatives and right-thinking Democrats.
When it comes to rendering judgement on the faith of others, I just remember that Christ told me to take the plank out of my own eye before I start to worry about the specks in the eyes of others. Maybe you should try that.
For President, the time for selecting the ideal candidates was the primary. We didn't, mainly because no real candidate was perfect enough to satisfy the SoCons. Romney is what we have. We'll try harder next time.
Also:
It’s pretty obvious Romney does good deeds for others without wanting publicity because of his belief and faith in God. Can’t say the same about the Traitor in Chief in the WH right now.
Not at all. With you, you were inwardly judging the motives of Tricia Erickson.
With me, we can track what Romney has outwardly condemned -- and confirmed -- about Mormonism. He did on one occasion condemn historical Lds polygamy. Other than that, he has confirmed the rest:
"There are some for whom these commitments are not enough. They would prefer it if I would simply distance myself from my religion, say that it is more a tradition than my personal conviction, or disavow one or another of its precepts. That I will not do. I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers - I will be true to them and to my beliefs."
Who would make a better neighbor, Mormon or muslim? I’ll pick the Mormon anytime.
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