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I do believe HEAVEN is TRULY for REAL.
1 posted on 10/10/2012 6:43:38 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

There have been so many documented cases of NDE’s - Near Death Experiences. Don’t understand why it isn’t more scientifically accepted.

We are all souls with a body. Not a body with a soul.


2 posted on 10/10/2012 6:52:04 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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I do believe HEAVEN is TRULY for REAL.

I don't think that's what this guy was dealing with.

3 posted on 10/10/2012 6:52:37 AM PDT by fso301
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Do you remember that loud bang that was heard in the first Romney-Obama debate? I never heard an explanation of what caused it.

After the wake of my best friend, I went to his house and family and we all heard this loud bang that reverberated throughout the house. We all looked at each other and said what was that?

A psychic told me later it was my friend acknowledging his presence and appreciation. I remember Ann Romney saying that they believe Romney’s dad is always with him.

I just made that connection during the debate since it happened to us. I believe George Romney was showing his love and pride for his son, and I believe it’s just another sign that Mitt Romney will become president.


4 posted on 10/10/2012 7:01:48 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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saw this guy on 'Through the Wormhole' with Morgan Freeman.

he also said that he was a butterfly flying with millions of other butterflies when he started to regain consciousness

I do not call that afterlife as he was never dead...it was meningitis where the brain swells up...and when the brain swells up it is damaged more or less....

I do not deny an afterlife....I just don't see this guy as having performed a scientific study.

5 posted on 10/10/2012 7:11:32 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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"I do believe HEAVEN is TRULY for REAL."

I agree with you Biggirl. It is the physical universe that is an illusion.

7 posted on 10/10/2012 7:17:25 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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I do believe that much of what we consider our “mind” is not related to our brains. There’s a variety of evidence to suggest that’s the case.


8 posted on 10/10/2012 7:17:25 AM PDT by lasereye
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In an essay for American magazine Newsweek, which he wrote to promote his book Proof of Heaven, Dr Alexander says...

Uh-huh.

9 posted on 10/10/2012 7:18:46 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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There was some other book that dealt with this issue. Can’t recall right now, think it started with a b....


10 posted on 10/10/2012 7:25:36 AM PDT by bramps
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I found the book "Quantum Physics, Near Death Experiences, Eternal Consciousness, Religion, and the Human Soul" (I know, quite a title!) by William Joseph Bray to be an unevenly written and sometimes difficult read. But it offered the most reasoned and consistent explanation I have so far found for what this reality and physical universe is and is not).

One element in the book explains that any description someone might bring "back" after an NDE must be expressed in the limited terms of the tools at hand (the human brain and language) in this universe. We perceive and physically seem to "live" within a linear time frame that is created micro-moment to micro-moment by the act of our conscious observation and we have no words and only very rough analogous imagery that can convey the experience. The images of a tunnel, gardens, rivers, etc. are translations of things which cannot otherwise be described or expressed.

"Heaven" is not only real but is the timeless infinite from which the observation is made. Another point he makes (the writer is a Christian) is that the only human religion which is 100% for certain NOT true is Atheism.

11 posted on 10/10/2012 7:26:10 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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An amusing coincidence:
The doctor’s name is Eben, which is short for Ebenezer. Reminds me of a fictitious Ebenezer who received visions that dramatically changed his outlook.


15 posted on 10/10/2012 7:40:14 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to watch you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."--Del Shannon)
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this belief of being in heaven moments following death contradicts scripture.
in a number of verses death is referred to as a state of unconscious sleep where we will all be awakened to be judged
18 posted on 10/10/2012 7:49:07 AM PDT by drypowder
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I believe in God. I have faith that there is a God. I acknowledge that what I have is faith, not proof. I see that faith as a gift of God to me.

I have to question those who seem to “choose” what they believe. I don’t think one can simply elect to believe something (although one can say that they have done so). I believe faith is the result of numerous influences on one’s life (both earthly and spiritual), and upon one’s willingness to let those influences have their impact on one’s belief.

Just a meandering thought....


30 posted on 10/10/2012 8:49:55 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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Unless the full title is “Afterlife Exists Says Top Brain Surgeon - From the Grave!” than I still have to simply rely on faith here.


34 posted on 10/10/2012 10:13:58 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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A wondrous view: (God According to God; The Hidden Face of God; The Science of God).....a veritable treasure trove of Science and the Bible.
42 posted on 10/10/2012 12:42:54 PM PDT by yoe (Vote for the Real American whose love for his country was NEVER in question.)
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During his illness Dr Alexander says that the part of his brain which controls human thought and emotion “shut down” and that he then experienced “something so profound that it gave me a scientific reason to believe in consciousness after death.


I believe in heaven also, but that story is ridicules.

If his brain shut down, how would he know that his brain had shut down?

But since he is a big shot i guess the book will make him millions.


51 posted on 10/11/2012 3:48:48 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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I do believe HEAVEN is TRULY for REAL.


Ecclesiastes 1
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All things are full of weariness; man cannot express it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

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The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

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Is there any thing of which it may be said, See, this is new? it has been already of old time, which was before us.

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There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.


People have been trying to figure it all out for thousands of years and it is still as much of a mystery as it was on day one.


53 posted on 10/11/2012 4:24:31 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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I do believe HEAVEN is TRULY for REAL

So is hell.
62 posted on 10/11/2012 2:04:44 PM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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Maybe, just maybe, the little kid and this doctor have set the record straight once and for all on the issue of life after death.


72 posted on 11/05/2012 2:09:10 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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