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To: Biggirl

There have been so many documented cases of NDE’s - Near Death Experiences. Don’t understand why it isn’t more scientifically accepted.

We are all souls with a body. Not a body with a soul.


2 posted on 10/10/2012 6:52:04 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation

I wonder if the author explores the moral ramifications of his experiences?

“It is a serious thing to live in a society of possible gods and goddesses, to remember that the dullest most uninteresting person you talk to may one day be a creature which, if you saw it now, you would be strongly tempted to worship, or else a horror and a corruption such as you now meet, if at all, only in a nightmare. All day long we are, in some degree helping each other to one or the other of these destinations. It is in the light of these overwhelming possibilites, it is with the awe and the circumspection proper to them, that we should conduct all of our dealings with one another, all friendships, all loves, all play, all politics. There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations - these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub, and exploit - immortal horrors or everlasting splendors.” -C.S. Lewis


12 posted on 10/10/2012 7:38:16 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: A'elian' nation
We are all souls with a body. Not a body with a soul.

Actually, the biblical understanding is that we are a body with a soul, completely unified. This is why Jews, and then Christians historically, have always honored their dead with burial, not cremation, because of the expectation of resurrection.

This is also why the Christian creeds (Apostles, Nicene, etc.) include the term "resurrection of the dead" instead of the term "immortality of the soul," which is actually a Greek/pagan idea.

Point being, we are not ultimately disembodied souls...weighed down with a body (that's a pagan/gnostic idea)rather full human life is and will be forever...in a body.

I'm not saying souls do NOT separate from the body at death--as it surely appears they do (and the Church has taught so for a long time), I'm only saying that full human existence is physical--body AND soul--and, the bible is unequivocal about a physical resurrection at the 2nd coming of Jesus.

Souls separated from the body after death now are known as an "intermediate state," as eternal life--according to all orthodox Christian teaching--will be in a new resurrection body (as Jesus' life is in a (new) body up to this day...).

24 posted on 10/10/2012 8:19:23 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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