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To: SeekAndFind

Another reason I don’t call myself a Catholic.


4 posted on 08/17/2012 2:30:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: wastedyears

RE: Another reason I don’t call myself a Catholic.

Just because someone calls himself a Catholic does not necessarily mean that he speaks for the church.

Count some “Catholics” who call themselves that but are pro-gay marriage and pro-abortion (including supporting a mandate that forces Catholic organizations to pay for contraception ):

Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Joe Biden, Kathleen Sebelius, etc.


14 posted on 08/17/2012 2:59:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: wastedyears
These people are only CINOs. Don't worry about them. In fact, pray for them to be converted to the truth.

Paul Ryan has already been converted -- Perhaps Ryan's Bishop will speak to these wayward thinkers.

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30 posted on 08/17/2012 4:51:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wastedyears
Um... I'm not sure I get your position. Let's see:

And your conclusion is, Here's another reason not to call yourself a Catholic?

How does that follow?

31 posted on 08/17/2012 4:54:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The Holy Catholic Church: the more Catholic it is, the more Holy it is.")
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To: wastedyears
These people are only CINOs. Don't worry about them. In fact, pray for them to be converted to the truth.

Paul Ryan has already been converted -- Perhaps Ryan's Bishop will speak to these wayward thinkers.

Paul Ryan’s Bishop Defends Him Amid Attacks on His Application of Church Teaching
Paul Ryan, Catholic Who Looks to Church's Social Teaching, Tapped as Romney Running Mate
The other Ryan: the candidate’s wife, Janna
Paul Ryan, Joe Biden, and Liberal False Equivalence
Ryan as VP Pick Continues Election Year Focus on Catholicism
Paul Ryan Faces Left-Wing Religious Attack
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Holiness (Paul Ryan)
Paul Ryan: Midwesterner, Catholic, intellectual

32 posted on 08/17/2012 4:56:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wastedyears

“Another reason I don’t call myself a Catholic.”

I call myself a Catholic. This is NOT Catholic dogma.

In fact, I heard a bishop on EWTN Catholic Shortwave radio say he met with Paul Ryan, and Paul Ryan is trying to help out his country. I believe this bishop was the bishop in Paul Ryan’s diocese. Not all bishops, priests, et al agree on the same thing, unless it is dogma or an intrinsic evil. They are individuals.


37 posted on 08/17/2012 7:55:28 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: wastedyears

Because individuals want to pray for something (even if it is misguided as in this case)? sheesh... These people don’t understand economics and why government should be smaller, but they are at least praying for what they think should be done, not organizing demonstrations. it’s a free country for even fools like this to pray for big government


43 posted on 08/20/2012 2:55:29 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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