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To: NYer

The Tridentine Rite Good Friday prayers called them “the perfidious Jews” for a reason.


3 posted on 07/21/2012 3:15:09 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: lightman
The softer version of the petition (as adapted for the Lutheran Book of Worship in 1978) prays that the Jewish people "might arrive with us at the fulness of salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord.

We want them to be saved through the only Savior.

9 posted on 07/21/2012 3:27:05 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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...Good Friday prayers called them “the perfidious Jews”...

Interesting that the Catholic's invented this comfey chair to fix them for that.

For some strange reason, it offended the Jews. Must be perfidious or something getting offended by the "Holy Roman Church"!

26 posted on 07/21/2012 4:47:52 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: lightman

So who are we traitors to?


66 posted on 07/22/2012 5:49:52 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: lightman
You are misapplying the word "perfidious" which is a false friend in Latin.

The English word "perfidious" means "prone to breaking promises, dealing underhandedly, treacherous, sneaky" etc.

The Latin word "perfidaeis" simply means "breaking with/from the faith" and does not carry the same broad and nasty connotations as the later English word.

The prayer is essentially saying that these people who have broken with the covenant should reestablish it.

And, by the way, if this man believes that ripping up a printed translation of the NT is going to injure Christianity, then he knows a lot less than he thinks he does.

73 posted on 07/23/2012 5:29:55 AM PDT by wideawake
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