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To: Colofornian
Let's get off of Mitts religion..this week of Obama antics has convinced me we need to replace him at all costs.At least Mitt has a religion..Obama’s only religion is himself.
3 posted on 07/18/2012 5:11:45 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: dalebert

And B.Obamas intimidate ancestors believed that Jesus did not die on the cross but that Judas did (or good chance as it is a common belief in islam) so we now have 2 equally dislikeable postions vis a vie classical Christian beliefs, so now to look at other points that we can agree or disagree with. I have no great disagreement with the church of j.smith and that of mohammad so on the rest of the issues M.Romney is better than B.Obama at lest to me.


8 posted on 07/18/2012 5:18:55 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: dalebert; All
At least Mitt has a religion'

(So do Satanists; so do Scientologists)...

L. Ron Hubbard could have easily substituted Kolob for Venus in his religion.

Since L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology founder) taught:

...when a person dies — or, in Scientology terms, when a thetan abandons its physical body — they go to a "landing station" on the planet Venus, where the thetan is re-implanted and told lies about its past life and its next life. The Venusians take the thetan, "capsule" it, and send it back to Earth to be dumped into the ocean off the coast of California. Source: Thetan (Wikipedia)

I guess then, if a Scientologist runs for POTUS in 2016, if he were to pursue a space program that commenced finding that alleged "landing station" on the planet Venus, it supposedly wouldn't have ANY relevance to a POTUS role because that's "religion" -- and we keep "religion" separate from Venus landing stations and Kolobian launching pads, eh?

Seems to me that, per the Mormon myth narrative, when when an earthling is becoming "encapsuled" they leave from a "launching station" on the planet Kolob, where the Mormon spirit is implanted inside a human body, and once born with a Mormon family, the Mormon is told lies about its past life and its next life. The Mormon gods take the Mormon, "capsule" it in that body, and send it to Earth to be dumped at age 8 into the Mormon baptismal founts off of many international coasts.

12 posted on 07/18/2012 5:21:40 AM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: dalebert
At least Mitt has a religion..

Thank you Oprah.

15 posted on 07/18/2012 5:34:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dalebert
At least Mitt has a religion..

Maybe OTHERS might want to try it!

Here's where to start:

Here is MORMONism's own creed:
 
 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


 

16 posted on 07/18/2012 5:36:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dalebert
At least Mitt has a religion..

Maybe OTHERS might want to try it!

Ya dig a little deeper and say, WOW! Who WOULDn't want to be a MORMON after learning THIS!!!

The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


18 posted on 07/18/2012 5:37:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dalebert
At least Mitt has a religion..

Maybe OTHERS might want to try it!

And to get to the REALLY good stuff in MORMONism; all you have to do is to be able to answer these few questions correctly:

 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

19 posted on 07/18/2012 5:39:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dalebert

mormonISM has been talked about on FR for nearly a decade, why should this discussion be stopped because a candidate is a practitioner of mormonISM.
This is the Religion Forum after all.


48 posted on 07/18/2012 7:34:19 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: dalebert

Welcome to the religion forumm of FR - where religion is DISCUSSED.


58 posted on 07/18/2012 8:25:27 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: dalebert

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60 posted on 07/18/2012 9:01:59 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: dalebert

At least Mitt has a religion..Obama’s only religion is himself.
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No

Obama has the same religion that Willard has...

His mother Stanley Ann Dunham was dead dunked into Mormonism June 2008...

Then Stan Ann was married to her polygamous lover, Barak Obama Sr (Mormon temple wedding)

She received every endowment that the mormon religion has...

and was “sealed” to her chiulokdren, making them full temple worthy Mormons also...

Having never set foot in a Mortmon temple of paid one dime of tribute errr tithes and offerings..

According to the mormon beliefs which Willard belives in, these dead dunkings, marriages, endowments and sealings CANNOT be undone...

So if you have that much “respect” for Willards since birth religion, mormonism, which goes back to his polygamous ggg grandfather with his 12 wives who came to Utah from England about 1830, and his other polygaMOUS ggg grandfather Parley P Pratt, WHO WAS KILLED BY THE UPSET HUSBAND OF A WOMAN HE STOLE AWAY...you will no doubt not say anything untoward against his fellow Mormon, Obama...

Willard takes his religion seriously...

He understands and believes that Obama was the FIRST Mormon president...

He has said often enough that he believes the “faith of his fathers” and this is a major part of the rites of Mormonism...

Universal “atonement” making everyone who ever lived a Mormnon regardless of their own reliGIon of choice while they were alive...

Stan Ann died an atheist before she was dead dunked in a few Mormon temples...at least THREE...

Willard himself has been a proxy dead dunkee for severaL dead people so he understands the process that the Mormons have invented also...

Besides Obamas mother, millions of other people have been dead dunked (necro baptised into Mormonism...)
If theyre listed in the Mormon IGI International Geneological Index its becaquse they were dead dunked...
Jesus Christ dead dunked to “save” Him and He was temple married to Mary Magdalene ...
Hitler and many of his Jewish victims including Ann Frank,
Vlad the Impaler, and other evil people in history
ALL of the Founding Fathers,
many people who died as beliving Christians and would have hated Mormonism including ancestors of mine,
several presidents and famous people including movie stars,
Catholic popes and Father Damien was dead dunked and married to some woman he had never met...Lucky him...a wife for the Mormon afterlife...

Yes Obama has a religion...Mormonism...

Mormonism is higher than any other religion to a Mormon...

Thats what Willard believes...


68 posted on 07/18/2012 11:23:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dalebert

religion is fair game in the RELIGION FORUM!


121 posted on 07/18/2012 6:36:34 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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