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1 posted on 06/13/2012 6:40:09 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

If a person can no longer defend what he thought was defensible, that’s cool, but it is an immoral act to take a living from an organization that you can no longer support.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 6:43:10 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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>> the growing number of Americans who are atheist, agnostic, humanist or just plain disinterested in identifying with a religion.

I have to ask why individuals with this affliction would go to the trouble of listening to a sermon about it. Isn’t that identifying with a faith system?


3 posted on 06/13/2012 6:44:17 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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No shock that an atheist would lie and steal from people who trusted him.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 6:45:18 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("You were trying to chisel a perfect truth When the instrument broke in your hand." Al Stewart)
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“helping clergy”.

Puke.


5 posted on 06/13/2012 6:47:07 PM PDT by ecomcon
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And they need to be shown the door.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 6:47:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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This guy is a liberal’s dream. Since liberals tend to denigrate religion, they will love someone like him, who for whatever reason, has fallen away from faith.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 6:47:31 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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He’s probably been doing this for years already, and CNN is just helping him with publicity.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 6:53:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I've had several opportunities to renounce my faith in the past 20 years but I have not because, ultimately, the proof that God exists and is involved in our lives is everywhere.

There have been times when I've been bitterly let down by God but I know my life is worthless without Christ and I would rather kill myself than live without that belief because I already know how futile life is otherwise.

The only thing that keeps me going is the belief that, in some way, God has a plan and a reward for me. If that's not true, my life was already wasted.

9 posted on 06/13/2012 6:53:31 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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“A little more than a year later, 270 members are contributing to the message boards and connecting anonymously with one another.”

Wow, 270 people on an online message board and CNN thinks it’s a story! Forums for flat earthers probably get more participants than that.

I am all for unbelieving clergyman “coming out” as long a they resign their positions and renounce membership in their church.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 6:58:01 PM PDT by feralcat
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[When it launched last year, 52 clergy signed up for the online community, according to LaScola. A little more than a year later, 270 members are contributing to the message boards and connecting anonymously with one another.]

This is an anonymous, on-line forum where religious hucksters can exchange techniques in scamming parishioners. These are people who faked it from the beginning to gain power over the faithful and accumulate riches under a tax-exempt status. The clergy is riddled with sociopaths.

12 posted on 06/13/2012 7:05:12 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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From the last paragraph of the article:
“When I was 17, I preached what I believed was best for people at the time; when I was 20, it was a little different; at 25 it was different, too,” he said. “And now at 42, I am still the same guy preaching what I see is best for people.”

“... what I believed was best for people ... I am still the same guy preaching what I see is best for people.” OK. So, what has changed? My guess is that the “gospel” he used to preach was not really the gospel. The truth of God’s word was just his rendition of what he saw as truth. This guy is so full of himself that there is no room for Anyone else.

p.s. What the devil (term used advisedly) was he doing preaching at 17? What possible good could come of that? (1 Timothy 3:6)


14 posted on 06/13/2012 7:10:47 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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“...17, launching a 25-year career as a Pentecostal preacher.”

There is the beginning of the problem. He was too young to be given that responsibility, and most likely unprepared for it. His real problem is that he has never had a real job, one where he doesn’t live off of others. Let him earn a real living for awhile, and then tell me what he believes or doesn’t believe. At least then, he ill have earned my consideration.


16 posted on 06/13/2012 7:18:18 PM PDT by pallis
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This isn’t a suprise to me. Many ministers are most likely fakes. Jesus said (to those who worked in his name) that on the last day he will say, “Depart from Me; I did not know you.”

It doesn’t surprise me that CNN has a place in their news for this. For them, 277 people saying what they want to hear is an important story for them.

By the way, I’ve been a minister for 25 years. All true believers will have moments of doubt—but I’ve “cast my lot” with Christ. I will not deny what I believe through the scriptures.


17 posted on 06/13/2012 7:20:26 PM PDT by Justice4awe
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He could be an Episcopalian Bishop.


18 posted on 06/13/2012 7:23:34 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Very sad..


19 posted on 06/13/2012 7:29:26 PM PDT by JSDude1
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Atheists just worship themselves as God!


22 posted on 06/13/2012 7:42:02 PM PDT by tired&retired
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When you run out of sheep to fleece...find a new flock.

(Am I a cynical so-and-so or what?)


23 posted on 06/13/2012 7:51:43 PM PDT by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon...and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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A lot of preachers, especially in the deep South, were raised as preachers as a family business, a highly competitive business often wracked by cynicism and greed.

For them, they were showmen, who provided entertainment under the guise of religion. This was often the case, as life in the deep South, from reconstruction to about the 1960s, was impressively boring.

It has even been suggested that the only two entertainments available to many people were tent revivals and lynchings.

The rather crude comedian Sam Kinison was raised to be such a preacher, and just couldn’t stand it anymore, revolted by the entire enterprise. Faith had nothing to do with it.

So I am not particularly surprised that there are those of that type who are atheists. They have rejected what they do as being to benefit others, and is just a profit making scheme.


24 posted on 06/13/2012 8:09:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Everyone can make fun of this all you want, but there are a LOT of atheists in the ministry.

Most that I know didn't start that way, but when you've built a "career", it's tough to walk away and start again.

25 posted on 06/13/2012 8:13:17 PM PDT by JustCallMeFrank
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I have had some of these same pastors and clergy come to me asking for help, stating “I am afraid I threw the baby out with the bath water when I abandoned my religion!” I guide them back to the path.

Remember Saul who became Paul. Sometimes it is your greatest critics who become your greatest evangelists!


27 posted on 06/13/2012 8:22:39 PM PDT by tired&retired
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