Posted on 06/03/2012 1:47:47 PM PDT by NYer
Heard the most enriching homily on the Trinity today. Just awesome.
A great meditation by Monsignor Pope!
Time for you to lock yourself up, take a deep breath and SLOWLY read the Athanasian Creed.
Take a 15-minute break, ponder what you read, and start all over again.
After having done it a thousand times you will slowly start to get the beginning of the picture.
Don’t stop, do it one more time.
Creeds are not from God’s word, and thus are not for his elect to trouble themselves with.
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Satan loves creeds.
Wow, that’s a bold statement to make — so, according to you the Apostle’s Creed, a 4th century Christian document, is an aberration?
There were no apostles in the 4th century, so they couldn’t possibly have had a creed.
The last apostle died at the end of the first century. Perhaps you’re talking about the false apostles, appointed by men? They may have had creeds, since they were not appointed by Christ.
Holy cow, what a bunch of crackpots! Eek!
John 14:28 -
You heard me say, I am going away and I am coming back to you. If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.”
1 Corinthians 15:28 -
“When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.”
You're confusing the Apostle's Creed from the first century with the Nicene Creed from the 4th century.
The doctrine of the Trinity was not defined until well after the death of the last Apostle, John. Using your logic we should pay no attention to that or to the Bible either, since it's canon was not defined until the fifth century, again long after the death of the Apostle John. And we all know that none of the Apostles possessed a copy of the Bible.
The full new testiment was available since 95 AD
Everything but the Revelation was in use by 70 AD.
Cannon issues are mostly politics, not theology.
>> “The doctrine of the Trinity was not defined until well after the death of the last Apostle, John.” <<
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Wild opinion.
The workings of the trinity were set out in the 5th chapter of John’s first epistle.
Nope, Satan loves folks who deny the Trinity. Come, E-S, give up the anti-Trinitarianism and anti-Christ and believe in our Lord, God and Savior, Jesus Christ
some folks create their own religion. And then parrot it on FR.
The statement I quote immediately above is itself a "creed". As one of God's elect, I'm not going to trouble myself with it.
Creeds are a statement of faith and ARE God-inspired.
Well the Gospel of Mathew corrects you with was said in the closing words coming from Jesus in the “great command” to go and spread the Gospel.
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