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Crystal Cathedral Member Wants $30 Billion from Catholic Church
MSNBC ^ | 6/1/12 | Roxana Kopetman

Posted on 06/03/2012 6:13:45 AM PDT by marshmallow

GARDEN GROVE -- A long-time member of the Crystal Cathedral, whose wife is buried at the church's cemetery, has filed a claim seeking $50,000 for two cemetery sites, $5.6 million from founding pastor Robert H. Schuller and $30 billion from the Catholic Church.

David E. Phillippe, of Victorville, argued that Schuller and the Cathedral's board of directors, "that acted at Schuller's bidding," mismanaged the ministry's money and caused the bankruptcy.

The sale of the bankrupt Cathedral to the Catholic Diocese of Orange has "permanently desecrated" the campus, Phillippe wrote in his claim, filed April 2 in federal bankruptcy court.

The transfer in February to the Catholic Church also "defamed, polluted, cursed with moral, ethical cultural, criminal, spiritual and religious indignity" the glass-towered church, its buildings and "the consecrated grounds" of the cemetery, which hold the ashes of his wife, DoraDene Phillippe, he wrote in the claim.

Phillippe is seeking to re-open the bankruptcy plan to allow an amended claim as a creditor.

The plan was confirmed last December and is "now a final, non-appealable order," Nanette Sanders, an attorney for dozens of creditors, wrote in a response filed this week in U.S. Bankruptcy Court.

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1 posted on 06/03/2012 6:13:51 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I just bet that’s what he wants. It’s good to want, mister!


2 posted on 06/03/2012 6:16:58 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Take the high road, it's less crowded. (Mark Lowry))
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Mighty Christian of him. I guess he saved the big grab for last, $30 billion from the Catholic Church. Good luck, doofus.


3 posted on 06/03/2012 6:24:08 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: marshmallow

What part of his education as a Christian taught him anything of this world is forever? Where in the temporal world is permanence to be found?

Welcome to Realville.


4 posted on 06/03/2012 6:32:10 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: Shimmer1
Shortly, the Bankruptcy Court will want the claimant to become more familiar with the provisions of Bankruptcy Rule 9011.

My guess is that the Court will find an objective way to express its want.

5 posted on 06/03/2012 6:45:20 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: marshmallow

You can find Mr. Phillippe standing at the corner of Bigotry and Greed.


6 posted on 06/03/2012 6:56:06 AM PDT by Kirkwood (It's not a lie. It's a composite.)
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To: marshmallow

People in hell want ice water.


7 posted on 06/03/2012 6:58:23 AM PDT by samtheman (select environmentalists with clue > 0 .... Result set: no rows returned)
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To: Shimmer1

Yeah. I would say that some judge will drop kick this case.


8 posted on 06/03/2012 7:11:18 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: marshmallow
The transfer in February to the Catholic Church also "defamed, polluted, cursed with moral, ethical cultural, criminal, spiritual and religious indignity" the glass-towered church, its buildings and "the consecrated grounds" of the cemetery, which hold the ashes of his wife, DoraDene Phillippe, he wrote in the claim.

Dude, pick up your wife ashes up put them in a flower pot and place her on your mantle at home...

What an asshat...

9 posted on 06/03/2012 7:12:36 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Shimmer1

He should want in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled up.


10 posted on 06/03/2012 7:17:45 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Brilliant

With what the courts in this country have become, he stands a fair chance of getting most of what he seeks.


11 posted on 06/03/2012 7:51:55 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: marshmallow

It doesn’t cost $30 billion to move his wife’s grave, if he is so convinced that Catholics will “desecrate” it.


12 posted on 06/03/2012 7:56:21 AM PDT by montag813
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I was thinking about the greed when I saw the headline.

If he is concerned about his wife’s remains, I believe I have heard about the moving of such. Hope I’m right here.


13 posted on 06/03/2012 8:07:10 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: onedoug

Is Obama up to this? I smell a rat.


14 posted on 06/03/2012 8:39:17 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: muir_redwoods

So this guy says the Catholics could not retake the Church because it would be over someone else’s grave of another religion sitting there?

This sounds like some kind of Islamic excuse.


15 posted on 06/03/2012 8:44:36 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: marshmallow

Gotta give him an A+ for novelty, if nothing else. I think this is the first time I’ve ever heard of somebody using this method to attempt to extort money from the Church.


16 posted on 06/03/2012 8:47:35 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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Phillippe argued in his claim that the Catholic Church is "a known and admitted perpetrator of criminal acts in Orange County and globally." He attached news accounts of sex abuse cases by suspected pedophile priests and documents ordering secrecy in molestation cases.

People who attend glass Cathedrals (at least use to) shouldn't throw stones.

I told my wife to just dump my ashes in the Magic Kingdom when no one is looking.

17 posted on 06/03/2012 9:41:32 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: marshmallow

The Federal Bankruptcy court is completely separate from the rest of the Federal court system. It has very specific rules of operation. He missed the deadline in making his claim which the bankruptcy court judge likely would have thrown out anyway.

The other creditors will want no part of his claim anyway as that simply would cut into their settlement amount. As to the Catholic Church, they simply are the purchaser awarded the property by the judge based upon having the highest offer. They had no part in the original sales claims made by Crystal Cathedral Ministries. I suspect the Diocese of Orange would willingly return his wife’s ashes at no charge.


18 posted on 06/03/2012 9:49:45 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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Crystal Cathedral Member Wants $30 Billion from Catholic Church

Thus we see a demonstration of why the crystal cathedral failed: unmitigated greed--one of the seven deadly ones from one of its more greedy members.

19 posted on 06/03/2012 10:11:40 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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"David E. Phillippe, of Victorville,.....transfer in February to the Catholic Church also "defamed, polluted, cursed with moral, ethical cultural, criminal, spiritual and religious indignity" the glass-towered church, its buildings and "the consecrated grounds" of the cemetery, which hold the ashes of his wife, DoraDene Phillippe."

I wonder what his FReeper name is.

20 posted on 06/03/2012 10:41:10 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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