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To: cuban leaf

Your first wife obviously didn’t truly love you-—she was selfish and not selfless—as true love makes you want to please and sacrifice for the one you “love”.

Too many people equate love to “lust”. It is not about how many times you have orgasms, etc., it is all about how you make your spouse feel about themselves and God. You should always want to please those you love and promote the Good. This is ultimately what makes you happy—pleasing God and others. God has to be where there is selfless love-—always.

Marriage is a special male/female commitment which includes meeting the sexual needs of their spouse. Women are conditioned and taught in today’s atheist (godless) culture to despise male needs and marginalize men to mere animals-—as men are taught and conditioned to think women (and now men {homosexuals}) are just objects for lust—a means to an end. (The Church calls this extremely evil). It is the intentional dehumanization (communism) of man. No person will be “happy” treated with no respect for their fundamental natures.

Atheism has no respect for the opposite sex and the Nature of man and woman. Their beliefs reduce man to a base animal and urges. There is no spiritual aspect to man in their reality. Christianity is founded with the profound knowledge of Natural Law Theory which they embrace (rejected by Marx) which does not separate the physical and spiritual elements of men and women. Emotionally healthy human beings can never have their rational or their spiritual natures separated and it wasn’t until the Postmodern German Philosophy became prevalent in Europe and then America that this paradigm shift occurred. The Pope writes extensively on this transformation of Europe.

Compartmentalizing faith and reason and denying the true (whole) nature of man is the aim of Atheists/Marxists/socialists—so that they can make a colony of termites who can not use reason and knowledge and are slaves to their passions and urges. They are easy to control and eliminate. Their lifestyles do not promote trust and love and belief in God.

My point: There is no Love without God.


8 posted on 05/04/2012 10:01:14 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

—Your first wife obviously didn’t truly love you-—she was selfish and not selfless—as true love makes you want to please and sacrifice for the one you “love”.—

This. I’ll never forget the first conversation we had right after I was served papers:

Me: I LOVE you, D***Y!
Her: The D***Y you love is a figment of your imagination.

She turned out to be right. And you nailed her. I just never thought she could be that mean, even though the signs were clear.

And yep, when you get married your reason should be because you want to please the other, not because you want them to please you. Her narcissism eventually became quite plain to everyone.

This actually very much states what happened to me after 20 years and having three children who, at the time, were 10, 13 and 16:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Divorce.shtml


13 posted on 05/04/2012 10:21:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: savagesusie; cuban leaf
Your first wife obviously didn’t truly love you-—she was selfish and not selfless—as true love makes you want to please and sacrifice for the one you “love”.

Exactly. Love involves making an effort to make your loved one happy, regardless of whether you happen to be in the mood.

16 posted on 05/04/2012 10:23:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: savagesusie
My point: There is no Love without God.

I agree with you 100%.

When I was a young man without real faith, animal lust without commitment was the motive and intention -- the rest were excuses for living together.

Today, as I understand my faith, we still have betrothal, engagement then marriage. After the betrothal ceremony, the Lord prepares and links the internal minds of the man and woman -- the spiritual. The Lord is the source of Love and Wisdom -- the wife is the receptacle of love, the husband, wisdom. Both are equal partners that complement each other. When a couple's minds are so linked, they commit to marriage with engagement and finally marriage. Sex prior to marriage is contrary to Divine order and if you do and don't follow through, you have effectively made the woman a whore.

We call this Conjugial Love and believe couples that have this are together for eternity and appear at a distance as one angel. I believe my wife and I have this and it took work to get it -- we had to fix things rather than throw it all away. We have a very low divorce rate within my church.

37 posted on 05/04/2012 1:14:12 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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