Mary sealed to Heavenly Father by LDS proxy temple rites (Mormon baptism of Mary)

Facebook Utah Lighthouse Ministry ^ | Thursday, April 15, 2010 | Helen Radkey

[NorthernCrunchyCon]

Mary sealed to Heavenly Father by LDS proxy temple rites The Mormon Baptism of Mary, Mother of God

By Helen Radkey

Hail Holy Queen

Mary (the mother of Jesus) was a Jewish woman of Nazareth in Galilee, identified in the New Testament as the wife of Joseph and the mother of Jesus of Nazareth. Christians believe Mary conceived Jesus miraculously by the agency of the Holy Spirit. For twenty centuries, Christians have cherished Mary and given her titles that reflect their love and admiration—such as the Blessed Virgin Mary, Theotokos (Mother of God), Our Lady, and Queen of Heaven. As the most celebrated woman in Christendom, Mary is considered the epitome of virtue by Christians, especially Catholics and Orthodox. Protestants generally perceive Mary as an outstanding example of a life dedicated to God. Over two thousand years after she gave birth to Jesus Christ—who is recognized by Christians and Mormons as the Redeemer of mankind—Mary of Nazareth was offered “eternal salvation” through The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)

Mary, a Mormon by proxy

“Mary Mother of Jesus,” the spouse of “Joseph „of the House of David‟…” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on December 9, 2009 in the Idaho Falls Idaho (LDS) Temple. She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on December 16, 2009; an endowment ceremony on December 26, 2009; and a sealing to parents on January 7, 2010—all rites occurred in the Idaho Falls Idaho Temple.

[ejonesie22]

Oh you don't disappoint...

As far as speculating, it is your statements, your posts. So either they are true or you are being deceptive. Given the nature of your posts and what you have said that is very easy to believe, for "lying for the lord" is common practice for Mormons. That you do this simply speaks for itself.

One thing that is clear, and interesting because I have seen it before, you support the LDS as "truth" even when being cute with that silly arrogance. So either you are LDS or you have no issue spitting in the face of the "truth"...

Also you do care, because you respond and do so with vague comments and accusations of "opinions" and such despite making more solid statements early on...

Now give me your cute little response about not making points whilst posting statements and how we have no facts etc.....

[Elsie]

And since you don’t know me and never will, all you can do is speculate.

You somehow seem to think this thread is about you; but it is not.

It is about the HERESY named MORMONism.

We are posting the things that MORMONism has put forth; and the chips are falling where they may.

[Elsie]

Things out of context will get a person it trouble.

Paul was NOT addressing HERETICS, but believers...

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14 I am writing this not to shame you but to warn you as my dear children. 15 Even if you had ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 16 Therefore I urge you to imitate me. 17 For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

18 Some of you have become arrogant, as if I were not coming to you. 19 But I will come to you very soon, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only how these arrogant people are talking, but what power they have. 20 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. 21 What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a rod of discipline, or shall I come in love and with a gentle spirit?

[Elsie]

"What do you desire?

Shall I come to you with a rod,

or with love and a spirit of gentleness? 

 

 1 Corinthians 4:21

 

Christ Driving the Money Changers from the Temple,

 London version, by El Greco

 

 

 

[Monkey Face]

Awww...y’all work so hard to place me into that rigid niche that you like posters to be in, and have such sorry responses when we don’t snap up your bait. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: You don’t want to discuss things: You want to pound your beliefs into everyones’ heads, regardless of their religious persuasion.

You think this is the first time I have dealt with anti-Mormons? It is to laugh! I respond because I want to see just how far you will go to “prove” someone is “wrong” in their beliefs.

You don’t know who and /or what I am, and therefore, you try to narrow it down to something within your comfort level. Your responses are cute, too. Seriesly!

[Natural Law]

"Paul was NOT addressing HERETICS, but believers..."

St. Paul was addressing believers who had strayed or were in danger of straying from orthodoxy. They were either already heretics or were in danger of becoming heretics.

All Christian heretics believe in Jesus, however imperfectly. No living person fully knows or understands God and all fall short. One man's heretic is another man's saint. Do not judge them. No heretic's path to Salvation is complete or decided until the moment of his death.

If you are not a Catholic I can rightly claim that you are a heretic, but that does not entitle me to treat you in an un-Christian manner. I have been branded a heretic and insulted for my beliefs many thees on this forum by those who claim to speak for God. In the past it has brought me to anger and caused me to sin. I do not wish to cause anyone to sin against God, nor do I suspect do you. Other's beliefs do not change what I am called to do. Whether you or they know it or not, or believe it or not the "heretic" is a child of God created in His image. Only Grace and the Fruit of the Holy Spirit will bring him home.

"Keep your behavior excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may because of your good deeds, as they observe them, glorify God in the day of visitation." - 1 Peter 2:12

[ejonesie22]

We don't want to discuss things...

Ahh...

So essentially dropping a thought or comment and then doing nothing to support it just fun, a game, not that you cannot support your claims...

In broad terms we know who and what you are so it really is irrelevant. You defend a heretical cult based on false doctrines and stories that have been demonstrated to be hogwash. Facts are funny things, like “proving” 2+2=5, it can't be done but you can say the answer 5 is correct and you have never been “proven” wrong to this day, as long as reality is optional for you...

Oh and the “pound beliefs” you can pound sand on that one. I will discuss my beliefs with the true believer of any ;legitimate faith. Cults such as the LDS fall out of that norm. That they misrepresent and attack Christianity, makes that double true...

[ejonesie22]

We don't want to discuss things...

Ahh...

So essentially dropping a thought or comment and then doing nothing to support it just fun, a game, not that you cannot support your claims...

In broad terms we know who and what you are so it really is irrelevant. You defend a heretical cult based on false doctrines and stories that have been demonstrated to be hogwash. Facts are funny things, like “proving” 2+2=5, it can't be done but you can say the answer 5 is correct and you have never been “proven” wrong to this day, as long as reality is optional for you...

Oh and the “pound beliefs” you can pound sand on that one. I will discuss my beliefs with the true believer of any ;legitimate faith. Cults such as the LDS fall out of that norm. That they misrepresent and attack Christianity, makes that double true...

[Monkey Face]

My-my...aren’t we testy, today.
You will never see the day when I attack Christianity, because you have no clue about me or what I believe. All you have to go on is what was posted in the past.
I don’t have to support the Truth. It will (again) stand on its own merit, in spite of what you think, say or believe.

So pound THAT into your rathole, and thank God for the Right to Choose!

[editor-surveyor]

How ‘bout both Morons and Kathlicks slip away?
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[editor-surveyor]

I’m troubled by all the pagan nonsense about ‘mary.’

Read Christ’s words, and accept them as his will.

[editor-surveyor]

You have a bizzare idea of what constitutes ‘scripture.’
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[terycarl]

How ‘bout both Morons and Kathlicks slip away?

if the Catholics "go away" there would no longer be TRUE Christianity.....PERIOD !! .

[Elsie]

You want to pound your beliefs into everyones’ heads, regardless of their religious persuasion.

Yup; you must be right!

That's EXACTLY why I post so much MORMON produced data.

[Elsie]

Do not judge them.

Sorry; but I am going to do that very thing.

I will 'judge' them by the things they say and teach; just as I am being judged for the things that I post here in FR.

[Elsie]

You will never see the day when I attack Christianity...

Then you WILL be repudiating the following QUOTES from MORMON 'leaders' who have done the very thing you say that you won't do.

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[Elsie]

Read Christ’s words, and accept them as his will.

Like THIS???

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John 6:28-29 (niv)

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

 

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1 John 3:21-24

  Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.  And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.  The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

[Elsie]

You have a bizzare idea of what constitutes ‘scripture.’

I guess I should have been more clear.

MORMONs consider it to be SCRIPTURE.

[Elsie]

if the Catholics "go away" there would no longer be TRUE Christianity.....PERIOD !! .

Spoken like a Latter-day Elisha!!

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1 Kings 19:10-18

10 He replied, “I have been very zealous for the LORD God Almighty. The Israelites have rejected your covenant, torn down your altars, and put your prophets to death with the sword. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me too.”

11 The LORD said, “Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the LORD, for the LORD is about to pass by.”

Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the LORD, but the LORD was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the LORD was not in the earthquake. 12 After the earthquake came a fire, but the LORD was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper. 13 When Elijah heard it, he pulled his cloak over his face and went out and stood at the mouth of the cave.

Then a voice said to him, “What are you doing here, Elijah?”

14 He replied, “I have been very zealous for the LORD God Almighty. The Israelites have rejected your covenant, torn down your altars, and put your prophets to death with the sword. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me too.”

15 The LORD said to him, “Go back the way you came, and go to the Desert of Damascus. When you get there, anoint Hazael king over Aram. 16 Also, anoint Jehu son of Nimshi king over Israel, and anoint Elisha son of Shaphat from Abel Meholah to succeed you as prophet. 17 Jehu will put to death any who escape the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death any who escape the sword of Jehu. 18 Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel—all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and whose mouths have not kissed him.”

[Monkey Face]

Elsie. Bless your heart! You just keep trying, don’t you?

I’m off to bed now. It was a long day, and my old bones don’t have the resilience they used to. I will keep you in my prayers.

XO

‘Face