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To: Natural Law
Things out of context will get a person it trouble.

Paul was NOT addressing HERETICS, but believers...


14 I am writing this not to shame you but to warn you as my dear children. 15 Even if you had ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 16 Therefore I urge you to imitate me. 17 For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

18 Some of you have become arrogant, as if I were not coming to you. 19 But I will come to you very soon, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only how these arrogant people are talking, but what power they have. 20 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. 21 What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a rod of discipline, or shall I come in love and with a gentle spirit?

163 posted on 04/03/2012 1:19:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
"Paul was NOT addressing HERETICS, but believers..."

St. Paul was addressing believers who had strayed or were in danger of straying from orthodoxy. They were either already heretics or were in danger of becoming heretics.

All Christian heretics believe in Jesus, however imperfectly. No living person fully knows or understands God and all fall short. One man's heretic is another man's saint. Do not judge them. No heretic's path to Salvation is complete or decided until the moment of his death.

If you are not a Catholic I can rightly claim that you are a heretic, but that does not entitle me to treat you in an un-Christian manner. I have been branded a heretic and insulted for my beliefs many thees on this forum by those who claim to speak for God. In the past it has brought me to anger and caused me to sin. I do not wish to cause anyone to sin against God, nor do I suspect do you. Other's beliefs do not change what I am called to do. Whether you or they know it or not, or believe it or not the "heretic" is a child of God created in His image. Only Grace and the Fruit of the Holy Spirit will bring him home.

"Keep your behavior excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may because of your good deeds, as they observe them, glorify God in the day of visitation." - 1 Peter 2:12

166 posted on 04/03/2012 1:51:06 PM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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