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Hemings and Jefferson Together Forever? Troubling cases of Mormon “proxy sealing.”
Slate.com ^ | March 29, 2012 | Max Perry Mueller

Posted on 03/30/2012 7:44:55 PM PDT by Colofornian

Thomas Jefferson’s most famous slave, and the mother of several of the third American president’s children, died in 1835...We don’t know when news of Joseph Smith’s... religious movement reached...where Sally Hemings spent most of her 62 years, as a house servant and eventually as Jefferson’s “paramour.” But even if Mormon missionaries had come to Monticello during Heming’s lifetime, they would, per the instructions of Smith himself, have worked first to convert the masters, and only then—with the masters’ permission—the slaves.

Heming’s chance to become a Mormon came much later, in a Mormon temple in Mesa, Ariz., 13 years after the church lifted the ban on full membership for people of African descent. On April 21, 1991, two members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints entered a baptismal font. One...proclaimed, “...I baptize you for and in behalf of Sally Hemings, who is dead.”

SNIP

After the recent furor over Mormon proxy baptism, this news about Hemings should surprise no one. We should...take it as a given that Mormons have baptized by proxy almost every famous person...even Elvis...[...a Jewish friend recently quipped to me, “Mormons can baptize dead Jews when Jews can circumcise live Mormons.”)

What is surprising is that the LDS Church, according to its Family Search registry, considers Hemings to be Thomas Jefferson’s wife. (One of two—the other of course being Jefferson’s legal wife, Martha...)

...Mormons not only believe in baptizing non-Mormons who have died—they also...“seal...” families so they can spend eternity together...

...the LDS church recognizes Hemings as Jefferson’s wife...I strongly suspected that Hemings and Jefferson had been posthumously sealed as husband and wife. I asked the LDS Church to confirm my hunch...the Church obliged: ...Hemings and...Jefferson, I was told, have been posthumously sealed as husband and wife in an LDS Temple...

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: History; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: inman; lds; mormon; mormonbaptism; sealing; thomasjefferson
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To: MarkBsnr

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61 posted on 04/01/2012 6:02:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

But the mormon issues you raised were mostly about racism, and neither Romney or his father before him were ever identified with racism.

I realize you are concerned about Mormonism. Certainly in my personal opinion, Mormonism is not the truth,I don’t believe it was founded by a true prophet.

However, imho Slate is discussing Mormonism’s history on race in a deliberate attempt to motivate African American voters against Romney, just as I believe that what has been made of the Trayvon Martin shooting is now all about motivating black turnout in theupcoming election.


62 posted on 04/01/2012 7:55:05 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams
However, imho Slate is discussing Mormonism’s history on race in a deliberate attempt to motivate African American voters against Romney,

I agree.

So what?

What ever works!

And it IS the TRUTH!!


But the mormon issues you raised were mostly about racism, and neither Romney or his father before him were ever identified with racism.

Yes; it's true that Mitt was a young man of 31 when the LDS religious Organization 'saw the light' so to speak in 1978.

63 posted on 04/01/2012 8:09:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

OK then if your goal is to reelect Obama in any way shape or form it is inexcusable.


64 posted on 04/01/2012 8:57:14 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

What I post needs no ‘excuse’.

It is what it is.

People who read into it what my INTENTIONS are, are merely getting side tracked.


65 posted on 04/02/2012 3:56:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Utah Binger
INteresting...

"Our mission is to prepare the hearts of listeners everywhere to receive the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and to live by its principles as they prepare to meet the Savior when He returns."

-- David Watkins

I wonder if Dave or Carl has EVER seen the 'fullness' spoken of.

I know I haven't; despite asking countless MORMONs on FR to show it to me...





66 posted on 04/02/2012 4:05:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

As I sit out here in my little coffee shack on Sunday mornings it is almost like a comedy show to listen to the radio and these oh so sanctimonious and perfect beings bearing a testimonkey a minute.

Yesterday was also General Conference, an added humorous whammy. They do give me good mocking material.


67 posted on 04/02/2012 5:11:23 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Elsie

The intentions of Slate are clear, it is a reelect Obama left wing organ, and you are a tool of the left wing for Obama.


68 posted on 04/02/2012 5:13:44 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Elsie

69 posted on 04/02/2012 5:20:46 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger
You are a certified masochist!
70 posted on 04/02/2012 10:24:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Williams; Tennessee Nana

It’s blue in my world.

How ‘bout yours; Nana?


71 posted on 04/02/2012 10:25:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Williams; Tennessee Nana
The intentions of Slate are clear, it is a reelect Obama left wing organ, and you are a tool of the left wing for Obama.

No, Ma'am; we do this of our own volition.




72 posted on 04/02/2012 10:27:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: madison10
Mormons simply cannot be bothered with any ACTUAL history - otherwise they might have to throw out their most cherished “scriptures” that speak of all sorts of things with zero historic, linguistic, or genealogical support.
73 posted on 04/02/2012 10:28:49 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Utah Binger

I plug my camera cable on that side as well; but I have my wireless mouse receiver on the other side where it is more out of the way.


74 posted on 04/02/2012 10:29:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Utah Binger

Uh... why is a coffee cup OUTside the window?

Watching all them YouTube videos will have that effect...


75 posted on 04/02/2012 10:31:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

And, in Binger’s....

http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/1255558066


76 posted on 04/02/2012 10:34:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Utah Binger

Come away from that keyboard and get OUT of the basement!


77 posted on 04/02/2012 10:36:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Laughing out loud at #67-77. When I open the big front doors in the summer there are nice t-bird coffee cups for sale on the outside counter. I can't plug the wireless mouse into the back as that counter is sort of narrow.

I love going out there in the mornings where I have a little milk house heater which warms things up rather quickly. The trusty Grundig radio is tuned to the Mid Utah corny radio station playing songs from the fifties.

And then there is the coffee.

.

78 posted on 04/02/2012 11:10:28 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Elsie
"Uh; because it's a hellish heresy parading as some kind of Super Christianity?"

So? You can find crazy stuff all over, including of your more regular Christianity? We covered this. So why obsess about Mormons?

79 posted on 04/02/2012 6:38:03 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Elsie
Let me try this again. Some days I really wish we had a delete button.

"Uh; because it's a hellish heresy parading as some kind of Super Christianity?"

So? You can find crazy stuff all over, including in your more regular Christianity. We covered this. So why obsess about Mormons?

80 posted on 04/02/2012 6:39:57 PM PDT by mlo
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