Posted on 03/11/2012 2:20:23 PM PDT by NYer
I would not want to be that MORMON, and thank PERSONAGES that the overwhelming amount of MORMONs in this world have not committed this sin and heresy. G-d forbid they should abandon Wilford Woodruff.
Please, learn about MORMONism. I don’t mean this sarcastically; if you knew the truth about MORMONism and why MORMONs cannot accept POLYGAMY, then you would understand.
You have it backward.
They need to RENOUNCE the HATE SPEECH that THEIR 'religion' makes EVERY DAY toward Christianity.
You've only just replied to #1.
After you get to #53 and read it; please get back to me.
They will be cut off (EXCOMMUNICATED #2 ) from the MORMON community for their apostasy and will be considered APOSTATES.
I would not want to be that MORMON #3, and thank PERSONAGES that the overwhelming amount of MORMONs in this world have not committed this sin and heresy.
G-d forbid they should abandon Wilford Woodruff #4 .
The Doctrine and CovenantsSection 132Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
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58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto. 59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him. 60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God. 61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else. 62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified. 63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified. 64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law. 65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife. 66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen. |
...were excommunicated, and then started their own religion.
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"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned; and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given, and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned. Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855) |
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Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriage...
I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws..."
~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President |
Honest guys!
It wasn’t all red and large in the preview!
the conman choses evil on his own.
I respect your position, thanks!
G-d gives us salvation. G-d alone is the Rock and Redeemer.
There are plenty of Hebrew Scripture verses that prove it.
We Jews find the truth in Torah,not a man-god who may not have even lived.
Sorry to break the bad news to you,but when a Jew leaves the Torah behind to accept j*sus he/she is no longer a Jew and does not have the right to call themselves a Jew. They cannot call themselves a Jew.
They have been cut off by the Jewish community until they repent of the sin of idolatry and return to true Judaism.
WRONG!
I don’t want to worship j*sus anyway. He was angry,vindictive,he wanted revenge,etc.
Not befitting the true messiah.
Oh,did you know I used to be a c*ristian?
” Sorry to break the bad news to you,but when a Jew leaves the Torah behind to accept j*sus he/she is no longer a Jew and does not have the right to call themselves a Jew. They cannot call themselves a Jew.
They have been cut off by the Jewish community until they repent of the sin of idolatry and return to true Judaism.”
Do you have to stop being Jewish to believe in Jesus?
By David Sedaca
Although this question is frequently asked, many attempts to answer it are based on misconceptions or prejudices rather than pure facts. The simple answer to this question is that a person DOES NOT have to stop being Jewish to believe in Jesus. The reasons for this are as follows.
In first place, being Jewish is much more than being a practicing Jew. According to the American Jewish Congress, more than 50% of American Jews are either non-practicing, secular, humanistic, agnostic or atheist. But the remarkable fact is that those Jewish people are still considered Jews! So if religion does not define one’s “Jewishness,” why should the belief in Jesus change one’s “Jewish status”?
Another aspect of this question depends on who gives the answer. According to religious Jews, if a person chooses to believe in Jesus he has “crossed the line.” In other words, if a person chooses to believe in Jesus, he or she has made a conscious decision to become something other than a Jew.
But if Judaism is not defined by one’s beliefs, why should faith in Jesus automatically result in being cut off from the Jewish people? What can be more Jewish than believing that Jesus is the promised Jewish Messiah, who came to fulfill the Jewish prophecies as foretold in the Jewish Bible?
An erroneous view has also been held by the historical Christian churches from the middle of the third century to the present time. The fallacy is the belief that if a Jewish person wanted to follow Jesus, he or she had to forfeit their Jewishness and become a Gentile for all practical purposes.
The First Council of Nicaea, called by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in 325 AD, resulted in the first uniform Christian doctrine, called the Nicene Creed. The purpose of the council was to resolve the nature of Jesus in relationship to the Father; in particular, whether Jesus was of the same substance as God the Father or merely of similar substance.
But another consequence of the Council of Nicaea - followed by the edicts of the Council of Chalcedon and many others - was distancing the church from its Jewish roots. For instance, the council stated that if a Jew wanted to accept Jesus and be part of the church, he had to abandon the Jewish traditions and practices and even change his Jewish name!
Another result of the council was an agreement to abandon the biblical Hebrew calendar and adopt a calendar based on the vernal equinox. All of these changes began to make it impossible for a Jew to believe in Jesus and retain his or her Jewish identity.
The fact is that neither the rabbis’ nor the church’s decrees can take away someone’s Jewishness. The belief that one must stop being Jewish in order to believe in Jesus is as unsustainable as holding that a Scottish, Italian or Chinese person had to stop being Scottish, Italian or Chinese if they chose to believe in Jesus. There is nothing more biblically Jewish than to believe in the Jesus as the Jewish Messiah as described by the Jewish prophets in the Jewish Bible.
Source: chosenpeople.com
So you've siad.
But WHY?
HOW??
How about a REFORMED Jew?
An ATHEIST Jew?
Can they still be JEWS?
St. Paul would have been quite surprised at your statement.
I think you may have in mind the MORMON jesus.
No; I didn't.
What caused your change of heart?
What's up with the * replacing the 'H' in Christian?
Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe in Jesus Christ as Savior and Redeemer and rely on Him for our salvation.
It doesn’t seem strange to me to consider myself a Christian — a believer in and follower of Jesus Christ.
Because Jews are not to write the names of false gods,and c*rist falls into that category.
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