Posted on 02/25/2012 8:06:24 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
“When Dr. Stanley was a young man, one week spent with his grandfather charted the course for more than 50 years of preaching God’s Word. During those few days, he learned the first of 30 foundational truths that guide his life and ministry to this day.”
Thanks for posting.
Thanks for posting this.
Thank you for posting this!!!! I love watching Dr. Stanley every weekend and have been watching School of Faith for the past few weeks.
I agree.
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Thanks for posting. He is a fine man of God with the gift of teaching.
With all due respect, and without trying to start a posting war, the kind of mentality that reduces our lives with Christ to “principles” comes dangerously close to making the gospel into a “religion” the way Rome does. I know many people enslaved to these kind of “principles”. Paul taught a much wider vision of ideas, a much more comprehensive and complex understanding of our rescue throughout his letters. While I don’t question his sincerity, I respectfully reject Stanley’s systemization of these matters.
You listened to the sermons, I presume, before you posted your comment?
I listen to Dr Stanley almost every morning, and I agree with much of what DB88 sez.
Frankly Dr Stanley seems like a gnostic more than a minister of the Gospel. Sure he'll mention the Gospel, but he's all about somehow divining God's secret will as opposed to living you life by what is clearly taught in Scripture. To him Scripture is not enough, as morning after morning I hear him tell us to practice a type gnostic heresy.
So, just to prove that your issue isn't with the fact that Dr. Stanley is a dispensationalist, and believes that prophetic Scripture is true, why don't you take some time and listen to the sowing a reaping message and then we'll discuss after you're finished whether or not Dr. Stanley is a gnostic.
Why is it that it's always people from the mainline, dead Protestant churches who throw out false accusations against Bible-believing Christians but can never validate their own beliefs with Scripture?
Agree. Religion is not from God, Freedom is.
"Gnosticism was built on Greek philosophy that taught matter was evil and the Spirit was good. They taught docetism, a dualism which promoted a clear separation between the material and spiritual world. Christian Gnostics said since matter was evil, God could not really incarnate in a human body, He only appeared in human form and only appeared to suffer, it was an illusion. It was stated when Jesus walked on the sand you could know by seeing his footprints that were left. In this Jesus could be a pure spiritual being in an evil world and not be contaminated by it."
So, since Dr. Stanley is a Gnostic, can you give me quotes of his or other examples of his Gnosticism, based on the actual definition of a Gnostic?
Make certain you have Scripture ready to prove that what he says is Gnostic. If you can find some.
I have heard Stanley over a 20+ year period. It is the reductionism to which I am objecting. Pamphleteering (Jack Chick), principlizing (Bill Gothard), sloganizing (I found it!) are IMHO poor substitutes for believers becoming good students of the Scriptures. We really ought to be encouraging one another to get hold of the problem Paul goes to great lengths describing and the solutions found in Jesus.
Additionally, the repentance to which both Peter and Paul refer is a repudiation of any kind of self-confidence, self-righteousness and a full on dependence upon Christ, alone. Cliche' driven theology tends to orient the mind on "me" to keep these gimmicky ideas in the fore. Solid biblical theology is neither clever, nor easy to understand. Witness the gross, almost blasphemous, misunderstandings of the Law suffered by James & co. (Acts 15, 21) almost 30 years after Jesus departed earth. If we are to grow in grace and knowledge (and avoid such errors), we need a deep understanding of this tendency toward self-reliance and guard against it at every opportunity.
So, since you had to have listened to the sermons posted before you made a comment (right?), give me a concrete example from one of Dr. Stanley's sermons of, as you call it, "reductionism".
Don't make accusations unless you are prepared to back it up with facts. Produce the evidence of the accusations you've made against this great servant of Christ.
Additionally, the repentance to which both Peter and Paul refer is a repudiation of any kind of self-confidence, self-righteousness and a full on dependence upon Christ, alone. Cliche' driven theology tends to orient the mind on "me" to keep these gimmicky ideas in the fore. Solid biblical theology is neither clever, nor easy to understand. Witness the gross, almost blasphemous, misunderstandings of the Law suffered by James & co. (Acts 15, 21) almost 30 years after Jesus departed earth. If we are to grow in grace and knowledge (and avoid such errors), we need a deep understanding of this tendency toward self-reliance and guard against it at every opportunity.
Produce the evidence, as in direct quotes from Dr. Stanley, that proves your allegation. I'd hate to see you lose any credibility.
A a very interesting observation. And, you are spot on about that "divining God's secret will" nonsense being heretical. How many teachers claim to have the formulaic technique to discern that "still small voice", the "urging of the Spirit", the "finding God's perfect will"? Instead of encouraging the brethren to understand the Scriptures and live accordingly, they turn the gospel into a weekend seminar on gnosticism. Tragic. Thank you for bringing this up.
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