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To: dixiechick2000
The churches aren't autonomous, they have to use the materials that the SBC supplies.

It is you who is blowing smoke.

77 posted on 02/22/2012 2:40:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The churches aren't autonomous, they have to use the materials that the SBC supplies. It is you who is blowing smoke.

I AM a SBC minister...if you would like to FREEPMAIL me to confirm this...go right ahead. I work out of a 17K member church.

There is absolutely NOTHING true in what you have said. Churches do not HAVE to use the materials that the SBC supplies. I can prove that to you. I would try to prove it to you but something tells me you are a bitter independent/fundementalist baptist who wouldn't listen to no amount of evidence I put forth.

But here it goes anyway: In my ministry...I help rebuild churches that have seen better days...and I do not use "Lifeway" materials. I use stuff that I wrote with the blessings of my pastor.

MANY MANY MANY churches are that way. Unfortunately there are A LOT of churches who DO use lifeway materials and I myself don't like it. It squashes the ingenuity. HOWEVER...it by NO MEANS forced upon churches by the SBC. TO say so comes from a position of EXTREME ignorance or outright deceit.

So which one is it? Are you just ignorant...or are you intentionally lying? Again...while I do not LIKE the proliferation of Lifeway materials...Churches use them because they have become LAZY...not because they are forced to do so.

And EVERY SBC church is autonomous. The PROOF of this is they call the PASTORS they want to call. They call the STAFF they want to call. They build the BUILDINGS they want to build...and when they go under because of debt...THEY go under.

And I think YOU know they are AUTONOMOUS. So again...which is it? Are you ignorant? Or malicious?

So say millions of people are not Christians is a grevious error. And to say they are no Christian because they get together in association? WOW...I wasn't aware Christ or the Apostles listed THAT among the damnable heresies.

So...is that a NEW revelation?

87 posted on 02/22/2012 3:39:54 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: fortheDeclaration
The churches aren't autonomous, they have to use the materials that the SBC supplies. It is you who is blowing smoke.

I AM a SBC minister...if you would like to FREEPMAIL me to confirm this...go right ahead. I work out of a 17K member church.

There is absolutely NOTHING true in what you have said. Churches do not HAVE to use the materials that the SBC supplies. I can prove that to you. I would try to prove it to you but something tells me you are a bitter independent/fundementalist baptist who wouldn't listen to no amount of evidence I put forth.

But here it goes anyway: In my ministry...I help rebuild churches that have seen better days...and I do not use "Lifeway" materials. I use stuff that I wrote with the blessings of my pastor.

MANY MANY MANY churches are that way. Unfortunately there are A LOT of churches who DO use lifeway materials and I myself don't like it. It squashes the ingenuity. HOWEVER...it by NO MEANS forced upon churches by the SBC. TO say so comes from a position of EXTREME ignorance or outright deceit.

So which one is it? Are you just ignorant...or are you intentionally lying? Again...while I do not LIKE the proliferation of Lifeway materials...Churches use them because they have become LAZY...not because they are forced to do so.

And EVERY SBC church is autonomous. The PROOF of this is they call the PASTORS they want to call. They call the STAFF they want to call. They build the BUILDINGS they want to build...and when they go under because of debt...THEY go under.

And I think YOU know they are AUTONOMOUS. So again...which is it? Are you ignorant? Or malicious?

So say millions of people are not Christians is a grevious error. And to say they are no Christian because they get together in association? WOW...I wasn't aware Christ or the Apostles listed THAT among the damnable heresies.

So...is that a NEW revelation?

88 posted on 02/22/2012 3:41:52 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: fortheDeclaration

“They have to use the materials the SBC provides.”?

Are you totally out of your mind?

NO, they don’t. They often do, but they don’t have to use anything they don’t want to. They often do, for the same reason men don’t lower the toilet seat. It’s more convenient?

Is that unChristian?


96 posted on 02/22/2012 6:32:13 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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