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To: C19fan
Mormonism is obsessed with Christ, and everything that it teaches is meant to awaken, encourage, and expand faith in him. It adds to the plural but coherent portrait of Jesus that emerges from the four gospels in a way, I am convinced, that does not significantly damage or deface that portrait.

It is a different Christ, a false Christ. Jesus Christ and the Father are one. Not one in purpose, but one God, not different gods, as the Mormons teach. Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16), not a god manifest in the flesh, as Joseph Smith revealed. Jesus Christ is not an exalted man (neither is God the Father an exalted man), but very God, God from everlasting, the Creator, not a creature, not a created being.

Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was not God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD, and beside me their is no saviour. (Isaiah 43:10,11)
And:
Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6)

No need to read between the lines to see that Isaiah is revealing the Godhead here.

Without very Christ, Mormons do not have God. (1 John 2:23). And this fact shows in Joseph Smith's authorizing vision where he says he sees the Son and the Father. He says God the Father spoke to him. Jesus Christ himself says

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." (John 1:18)
And Paul writes:
"In whom we have redemption in his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature." (1 Colossians 1:15)

The author's hyper-intellectual philosophical analyses aside, the question remains who did Joseph Smith see and hear. It wasn't God the Father, for he is invisible and a Spirit, not corporal: "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24). The Mormon Christ is a false Christ, and the deceiver wants to take as many souls with him to hell as he can. What better way than to offer a counterfeit, dress it up in the trappings of Christianity.

I'm researching why Mormon's detest the cross! They've gone to great lengths to pervert the atonement account, claiming that Christ's suffering and bleeding in the garden in Gesthemane is what atoned for our sin. (re: Luke 22:44 -- He didn't "bleed"--it's a simile). Game over so soon? Not quite. The sacrificial victim must die first before his blood is used for the purging. (Remember how we are enjoined not to consume the blood of animals, but the life is in the blood?) The Bible says in stark contrast:

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" (Galatians 3:13)
It is no small difference that Jesus was sacrificed "outside the camp" (not within the city gates -- i.e. Gesthemane).
Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gates. (Hebrews 13:12)

Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. For here we have no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

The blood smattered image of Christ is the only true portrait. The other is a fake. (Must end here).

22 posted on 02/14/2012 8:42:04 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting

It is a different Christ, a false Christ. . . . . . .

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Lets see, the Mormons worship The Christ that was born of Mary in Bethlehem. The one that turned water into wine, the one that was baptized by John, the one that was judged by Pilot and Herod and punished by Pilot. The one that was whipped nearly to death, was made to carry His cross to Golgotha, where he was cruelly crucified but was not killed but where he gave up His Spirit to God from where it came. The same Jesus that was resurrected on Easter Morning and was seen by Mary and then the 12 and eventually seen by over 500 who saw Him ascend into Heaven. The same Jesus Christ is willing to save us all from our sins that would otherwise doom us to everlasting Hell. Thats the Jesus the Mormons worship, you worship a different Jesus?

I know the Mormons have different beliefs but I know also that they worship the same Jesus Christ that I know. Maybe some of their beliefs are wrong, maybe not but they worship Christ. They may not be “traditional Christians” but they follow Christ to the best of their ability. They love The Lord.

My wife is one of them, if she doesn’t love The Lord then nobody does.

The ridicule I see here to me reeks of hate, this odor should never come from Christians.


31 posted on 02/14/2012 9:39:27 AM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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