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To: ansel12

Don’t call me names, post insulting pictures and bear false witness against me, and tell me that I cannot be a Christian.

I didn’t judge your wife, I asked you this, about your personal church.
“”It doesn’t trouble you that your church tells you that your own wife’s religion is not a Christian religion,? “””

Now I’m trying to figure out if you are Catholic as I assumed, or Jehovah’s Witness, which church do you belong to?

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When you make yourself a judge over my wife and call her a non-Christian it is an insult. There is only one Judge, you are not Him. Don’t insult my wife.

I don’t mention my religion on purpose. There will be those who will ridicule that too so I do not hold my faith up to ridicule.

I am a singer, the majority of churches I have sung in and the majority of the priests I have made friends with are Catholic. In speaking to my close priest friends and even those who are not so close, none of them have condemned my wife as non-Christian. They all espouse the ecumenical stuff about only being one Church of Christ and that if we worship Christ we are a part of that church. I tell them that that is not the doctrine of the Church but they tell me it is. They tell me that they may judge their members worthiness to take communion but are not judges of other people, that it is between God and the individual. I normally don’t like ecumenical sophistry but I do appreciate those words.

I believe there are many ways a man can be brought to Christ, I don’t think it matters how you get there only that you arrive in time.

My close association with Mormons finds in general a good, God fearing people. They are kind to a fault. Generous to an astounding degree. One Mormon told me once “by their fruits ye shall know them” as a scriptural quotation. Let me tell you, they got the fruits.

I’m not sure whether I care that they might not believe everything that everyone else believes, I know that they believe in Christ. I know that they sincerely try to follow Him and Love Him. The other stuff, it’s just stuff.


102 posted on 02/14/2012 2:30:14 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig

Why you insist on making things up about me, even as you quote my posts proving them false, is puzzling.

It was you that judged me, personally attacked me, posted an insulting picture at me, and said that I cannot be a Christian.

I merely pointed out that your church (assuming it is a Christian church), which you will not identify (which says a lot), knows that your wife’s religion is not a Christian religion.

Take the Catholic church for example, if you became a Catholic, would they recognize your baptism from your existing church?


105 posted on 02/14/2012 2:41:42 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JAKraig

“I believe there are many ways a man can be brought to Christ, I don’t think it matters how you get there only that you arrive in time.”

That is true, but it misses the point of this thread, which is mormons don’t accept Jesus Christ in all His glory. Mormon beliefs prevent them from ever coming to accept Christ fully.


107 posted on 02/14/2012 2:50:25 PM PST by Turtlepower
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To: JAKraig
I don’t mention my religion on purpose. There will be those who will ridicule that too so I do not hold my faith up to ridicule.

Yet you will hold your Wife's faith up for ridicule?

My how brave of you...

110 posted on 02/14/2012 2:52:31 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: JAKraig; ansel12
To ansel: When you make yourself a judge over my wife and call her a non-Christian it is an insult. There is only one Judge, you are not Him. (JAKraig)

Wait a minute. If you're labeling Ansel as a "judge," that means you're judging him. If you're judging him, then haven't you made yourself a judge over him?

But yet you preach not to make oneself a judge over your wife?

Which is it? Are we to practice what you preach -- or how you act yourself?

116 posted on 02/14/2012 2:58:05 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: JAKraig

According to your own post mormons would be godS fearing people.
“fruits” is in reference to false prophets. And I agree they do have the fruits of false prophets.
We are commended by GOD to call out false prophets and false teachings.
Jak, mormonism is not Christianity.


118 posted on 02/14/2012 3:06:47 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: JAKraig
In speaking to my close priest friends and even those who are not so close, none of them have condemned my wife as non-Christian. They all espouse the ecumenical stuff about only being one Church of Christ and that if we worship Christ we are a part of that church. I tell them that that is not the doctrine of the Church but they tell me it is. They tell me that they may judge their members worthiness to take communion but are not judges of other people, that it is between God and the individual. I normally don’t like ecumenical sophistry but I do appreciate those words.

Interesting that you are driven to request advice about your wife and Mormonism from so many various Catholic leaders, it is even more interesting that although you try to tell them correctly that the church teaches that Mormonism is not Christian, they resist you.

As Priests you would think that at least a few of them would know that a Mormon has to convert to Christianity, and be baptized to become a Catholic, and they know that Christians are forbidden by the church to be baptized twice, so a baptized Baptist convert for instance, is not baptized by the Catholic church, whereas a baptized Mormon, is required to be baptized by the Catholic church.

119 posted on 02/14/2012 3:07:23 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JAKraig
Don’t insult my wife.

Are you still USING here to protect the MORMON Empire?

Shame!

128 posted on 02/14/2012 7:39:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JAKraig
Don’t insult my wife.

Are you still USING her to protect the MORMON Empire?

Shame!

129 posted on 02/14/2012 7:40:05 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JAKraig

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/what-does-the-catholic-church-say-about-the-practices-and-beliefs-of-mormonism


137 posted on 02/15/2012 1:41:17 PM PST by StPaulRevert (Go Newt!!! 2012 The battle for America's Souls)
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