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Following the Truth: Listening To Mary’s Voice: Part 1, Confusion [Catholic Caucus]
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| Jan 15th, 2012
| Gary Zimak
Posted on 02/11/2012 10:42:23 AM PST by Salvation
We have been blessed with several Church-approved apparitions of the Blessed Mother throughout the years. In each of these appearances, Mary has urged repentance and the importance of following Christs commands. As we struggle to lead holy lives, wouldnt it be nice if Mary could speak to us and give us the necessary encouragement to keep on the right path? Fortunately, that is entirely possible and it can happen TODAY! By opening up our Bibles, we can hear the Blessed Mother speak directly to us and help us to grow closer to her Son, Jesus. Although Mary only spoke on four occasions in Sacred Scripture, each of her statements provides a wealth of information. By meditating on her words TO EACH OF US, we can become more like her and grow closer to the Lord. In this, the first of a seven-part series, well be looking at her first recorded words in Scripture
How can this be, since I have no relations with a man? (Luke 1:34)
After being told by the angel Gabriel that she has been chosen to be the Mother of the Savior, Mary is confused and asks a simple question. Given the fact that she (like us) is not divine, there are times when she had questions about Gods will. Even though she was sinless, Mary didnt have all of the answers. We see evidence of this a few verses earlier when (upon Gabriels arrival) she pondered what sort of greeting this might be (Lk 1:29). The common belief of theologians throughout the years is that Mary was confused because she had consecrated her virginity to the Lord. Although not the norm for married people, this practice was not unheard of in Marys time. Always desiring to do whats right, the sinless virgin proceeded on the course she thought was best
and then the angel appeared with some new information.
How many times are we confused about what God wants us to do? We struggle to discern His will for our lives and we have questions. We may feel the urge to take a more fulfilling job, but dont know how well survive on less pay. We may feel the call to the priesthood or religious life, but are fearful of giving up the possibility of marriage and children. We get the idea that maybe we should volunteer and help people, but we dont know how. As my own life illustrates, when the Lord calls us to do something, He doesnt provide all of the details up front.
In addition to those instances requiring us to make a decision, sometimes we arent given a choice. Rather, we are faced with an unexpected illness, devastating personal problems or financial difficulties. Although these situations occur without our consent, we still may question why they are happening. How will I survive? What will I do? Why is God letting this happen?
Marys words to the angel remind us that its OK to ask questions. If you feel that God is asking you to do something, but youre not sure how its possible, go ahead and ask Him for details. Mary did. If youre carrying a heavy cross and cant understand why, ask the Lord to enlighten you. Unfortunately, I cant promise that youll get the answer you want. Instead, the Lords answer may be, trust me. If thats the case, you may be asked (like Mary) to go along with His plan without knowing all of the fine details. If you have a difficult time doing that
join the club! However, dont ever forget that Mary can help you tremendously. As someone whos been there, done that, she knows exactly what youre going through. Turn to her and ask her to share some of her faith with you. I can guarantee you that, as stated in the Memorare, never was it known that anyone who fled to her protection, implored her help, or sought her intercession was left unaided.
Next Time: Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. (Luke 1:38)
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: annunciation; catholic; incarnation
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How many times are we confused about what God wants us to do?
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posted on
02/11/2012 10:42:36 AM PST
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Salvation
To: Salvation
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posted on
02/11/2012 10:43:44 AM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...
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posted on
02/11/2012 10:49:44 AM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
I clicked on the link for the second installment about Humility & was informed the second thread was a duplicate of the Confusion thread. Is this true or is ‘someone’ >confused about the difference between Confusion & Humility?
I followed the link to the original article. Thank you for the link as it’s a good series of articles.
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posted on
02/11/2012 11:03:11 AM PST
by
gghd
(A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
To: gghd; Admin Moderator; Religion Moderator; Sidebar Moderator
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02/11/2012 11:05:41 AM PST
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Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: gghd; Admin Moderator; Religion Moderator; Sidebar Moderator
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posted on
02/11/2012 11:07:03 AM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Beautiful!! Today is the Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes. My daughter (then 6, now 14) and I took the baths at Lourdes on a Knights of Malta sponsored pilgrimage as she was a malade with a serious bone marrow disease.
Anyway I can tell you firsthand from serious prayer in the grotto that Mary really can help when one is confused/scared, etc.
PS - Regina is doing much better - her blood counts are lower than normal, but there is no doubt that it is the Blessed Mother who has effected her cure.
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posted on
02/11/2012 11:08:27 AM PST
by
stonehouse01
(Equal rights for unborn women)
To: Salvation
Hi Salvation!
I am always very up front on here about the fact that I am NOT Catholic, although I love my Catholic brothers and sisters and respect the Catholic Church.
I have a sincere question about these apparition. What does the Catholic Church teach or say the reason is for these? In other words, why do you only see visions/apparitions of Mary? Why nothing from St. Peter or even Jesus himself? I know our Lord can do anything He wishes. He may have decided to honor his mother in this way as well, but I also am very skeptical about such things and Scripture tells us to be cautious since we know there are many imposters and signs and wonders that are false. We need to be cautious.
Just wondering. And you can private mail me if you wish. Thanks!
To: Paved Paradise
To answer your question, we HAVE had people who have seen visions of Jesus Christ. Two of our most popular devotions, the Divine Mercy and the Sacred Heart, have come out of visions of Jesus Christ.
Google them if you’re curious.
To: Paved Paradise
The Church does not accept just any apparition. It is studied for years from every angle. In the case of the two famous apparitions of Mary (Lourdes and Fatima ) both confirmed 1 John 4 as spoken by the spirit directed at the children. She ( the spirit) confessed the creed with the children.at many times.
I personally did not believe it until I read the full account which can be hard to get to read. Many times it is put in a consise manner to get to the main message. I went to a Vatican informed site.
No pure spirit can confess that Jesus Christ is their personal Savior and Lord together in the personal pronoun. I mean that he became human. The Divinity became man. That is why the Apostles creed and Nicene creed were created to confirm the test written by John the Apostle.
There is more to it . But that is the main reason besides others. If we do not believe 1 JOHN 4 as a requirement we might as well throw out the bible.
I have personally encounter an occultist who told me she was Christian. The spirit of God within me told me to challenge her. To say the least since she had some form of possession she could not declare in the personal pronoun that she believed in Jesus Christ came in the Flesh. She could not when it gets to " born of a virgin Mary " . She stopped and contorted like an unseen force prevented her. Shaking unnaturally then declaring there are "many gods".
Here it is in scripture:
1 John 4
On Denying the Incarnation
1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood."
If I see an apparition talk to me. I would cover the Blood of Christ over it. Then if it still talked I would tell it to declare in the personal pronoun "I" that Christ came in the Flesh/human .
It is funny that the children in the apparition where doing that without really knowing it. Why because it is built into the prayers they repeated with The Virgin Mary. This how the researchers from the Church beside other measures decided it was genuine.
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posted on
02/11/2012 2:15:45 PM PST
by
johngrace
(I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
To: caldera599
To: johngrace
I could not agree with you more. Meanwhile, I meet many people these days who will tell me they are “spiritual,” as if that is something positive to be glad about. My response to that is “Which spirit?”
All I know is that my best friend, who traveled to Mejdugorge (sp?) a year ago pays very close attention to these visions, but nothing that she has ever communicated to me is anything more than what Scripture has already told us about what has come or what is to come.
Also, while I acknowledge that Catholic teaching says that Mary intercedes on the behalf of the saints and that we have communion with the saints (per the Apostles Creed), then why do so many people I know tell me, verbatim, “I will pray TO “so and so” (pick your saint).
Thanks for the input!
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To: Paved Paradise
This is in the Bible. Why don’t you believe it. It was not an apparition at all. It was the Incarnation — the Annunciation.
Read Luke 1 starting at verse 26
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posted on
02/11/2012 9:36:46 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Invincibly Ignorant
This Religion Forum thread is labeled “Catholic Caucus” meaning if you are not currently, actively Catholic then do not post on this thread.
To: Paved Paradise
You been reading false info. There are two meanings to the the word Pray.
Praying Means beseeching. One means to God . The other is asking or beseeching a person( a king, Queen or person).
When Catholics say pray to a saint it is a beseeching. Asking for pray. St Jude pray for us.
First a definition: "To pray," as a verb, has two very distinct meanings:
1 : to make a request in a humble manner
2 : to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving
It is only in this first sense that Catholics "pray" to saints. "To pray" is simply to ask, and it is a common English word as these examples will show: "Comes now Petitioner and, having filed his Motion in Limine, prays this Honorable Court to grant..." or "I pray thee, sir, might I borrow your book?". In the first instance, the Petitioner is not worshipping the Court. In the second, the potentia book-borrower is not worshipping the book owner.
http://www.fisheaters.com/saints.html
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posted on
02/12/2012 5:34:55 AM PST
by
johngrace
(I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
To: johngrace
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posted on
02/12/2012 5:38:07 AM PST
by
johngrace
(I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
To: Paved Paradise
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posted on
02/12/2012 5:43:17 AM PST
by
johngrace
(I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
To: Paved Paradise
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posted on
02/12/2012 5:43:22 AM PST
by
johngrace
(I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
To: johngrace
Here is what is so aggravating about your response. I have ASKED many Catholics about this - point blank - and they never uttered one word of this. In fact, when my beloved mother-in-law was alive, we had lost our camera. She told me in NO uncertain terms that she was going to pray TO St. Anthony to find our camera. I was adamant that she just go right to the Lord. Finally, I posed the following to her:
I said that I knew God was omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent and, therefore, could hear the prayers of the entire world and be right with each individual as they prayed. I also said that I didn’t believe St. Anthony was ANY of those things, so I asked when all the thousands and hundreds of thousands of people all over who decide to pray to St. Anthony at the same time, how on Earth did he HEAR those? Her response to me: “Oh, you’re too practical!” LOL. She was hilarious. Boy do I miss her lots.
I’m not saying you are wrong at all. I’m just saying that you are completely naive if you think that people even know the word beseech, much less that when they tell me they are praying TO someone, that this is what they mean. It doesn’t and I have had them argue with me about it.
Meanwhile, I appreciate you telling me all of this.
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