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To: Salvation

Hi Salvation!

I am always very up front on here about the fact that I am NOT Catholic, although I love my Catholic brothers and sisters and respect the Catholic Church.

I have a sincere question about these apparition. What does the Catholic Church teach or say the reason is for these? In other words, why do you only see visions/apparitions of Mary? Why nothing from St. Peter or even Jesus himself? I know our Lord can do anything He wishes. He may have decided to honor his mother in this way as well, but I also am very skeptical about such things and Scripture tells us to be cautious since we know there are many imposters and signs and wonders that are false. We need to be cautious.

Just wondering. And you can private mail me if you wish. Thanks!


8 posted on 02/11/2012 1:09:31 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

To answer your question, we HAVE had people who have seen visions of Jesus Christ. Two of our most popular devotions, the Divine Mercy and the Sacred Heart, have come out of visions of Jesus Christ.

Google them if you’re curious.


9 posted on 02/11/2012 1:24:22 PM PST by caldera599
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To: Paved Paradise
The Church does not accept just any apparition. It is studied for years from every angle. In the case of the two famous apparitions of Mary (Lourdes and Fatima ) both confirmed 1 John 4 as spoken by the spirit directed at the children. She ( the spirit) confessed the creed with the children.at many times.

I personally did not believe it until I read the full account which can be hard to get to read. Many times it is put in a consise manner to get to the main message. I went to a Vatican informed site.

No pure spirit can confess that Jesus Christ is their personal Savior and Lord together in the personal pronoun. I mean that he became human. The Divinity became man. That is why the Apostles creed and Nicene creed were created to confirm the test written by John the Apostle.

There is more to it . But that is the main reason besides others. If we do not believe 1 JOHN 4 as a requirement we might as well throw out the bible.

I have personally encounter an occultist who told me she was Christian. The spirit of God within me told me to challenge her. To say the least since she had some form of possession she could not declare in the personal pronoun that she believed in Jesus Christ came in the Flesh. She could not when it gets to " born of a virgin Mary " . She stopped and contorted like an unseen force prevented her. Shaking unnaturally then declaring there are "many gods".

Here it is in scripture:

1 John 4

On Denying the Incarnation

 1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

 4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood."

If I see an apparition talk to me. I would cover the Blood of Christ over it. Then if it still talked I would tell it to declare in the personal pronoun "I" that Christ came in the Flesh/human .

It is funny that the children in the apparition where doing that without really knowing it. Why because it is built into the prayers they repeated with The Virgin Mary. This how the researchers from the Church beside other measures decided it was genuine.

10 posted on 02/11/2012 2:15:45 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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