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To: Salvation; RnMomof7

Why is it that the defense put forth by Catholics is always “others do it too”? Does that somehow vindicate the problem with the priests? To be frank, when I see that defense my stomach churns. The insensetivity to the issue is apparent and indicative of the underlying justification of the coverups.


6 posted on 02/11/2012 10:35:49 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Why is it that the defense put forth by Catholics is always “others do it too”? Does that somehow vindicate the problem with the priests? To be frank, when I see that defense my stomach churns.

The fact is, there are deviants in all walks of life. The rate is no higher among Catholic priests.

Your hatred of Catholic priests is the really story here.

13 posted on 02/11/2012 11:16:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: CynicalBear
The insensetivity to the issue is apparent and indicative of the underlying justification of the coverups. WOW! I guess that's one way to spin it.

What happened in the Church was heinous. So is the abuse that takes place outside it. One thing the Church has done is to take steps to protect children, whereas most schools and other denominations have not gone to the great lengths many parishes and dioceses have done.

You can't win if you're Catholic based on the threads I've read here today. We're apparently defending child molesters if we show loyalty to the priesthood. We're accused of laying down on the adoption issue if we run out of legal options. Our bishops are accused of supporting socialized medicine even though the USCCB opposed Obamacare (advocacy for universal access isn't necessarily advocacy for government control). They're accused of cozying up for government money (Were Catholic hospitals supposed to discriminate against Medicare/Medicaid patients? Or display poor stewardship by turning down resources intended to defray the cost of meeting government mandates in the first place?)

Right now CATHOLIC BISHOPS are taking enormous heat for standing up for the right of each and every American to be FREE OF COERCION from the latest Obamacare mandate. And still, it's not enough. I guess some folks find Catholic bashing good sport :( Makes me even more grateful for the protestant leaders and laity (of all faiths and no faith) who've chosen to stand beside us.

20 posted on 02/11/2012 1:28:33 PM PST by JustMeMcGee
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The rule has become to be accused or even suspected is to be guilty. Ironically enough, the chief accusers are the great defenders of sexuality as a human right. Among gays , buggery is an act of love, except when a priest is accused of it. Yet if the Church is guilty of anything it has been its laxity in screening gays from ordination. Indeed, now that the Church is tightening its discipline , it is all the more accused. The howls against the Church have become especially loud since Benedict XV, the bete noir of liberal Catholics has taken the seat of St, Peter.
23 posted on 02/11/2012 1:39:12 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: CynicalBear
The insensetivity to the issue is apparent and indicative of the underlying justification of the coverups.

When posters post vast links to other areas where this is a problem they are simply refusing to acknowledge it's their problem and a means of yet again the larger "coverup". It's just enables those who are in denial to continue...and those who coverup to continue. I think enabling is about right.

What catholics don't' get is all their claims to be the one and "only mouthpiece and representation of God to the world"..... is 'WHY' the outcry against the catholic church is so great...and what makes the difference between them and say the school system and other institutions.

They set the standard and failed....greatly failed...by covering for the Priesthood of Pedophiles and Homosexuals. It's really not as complicated as they make it....but complicating things comes natural for them I think....weave enough yarn and the truth will always get bound somewhere amidst it's wrappings.

76 posted on 02/12/2012 6:45:11 PM PST by caww
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To: CynicalBear; metmom; TSgt; All
Why is it that the defense put forth by Catholics is always “others do it too”? Does that somehow vindicate the problem with the priests? To be frank, when I see that defense my stomach churns. The insensetivity to the issue is apparent and indicative of the underlying justification of the coverups.

It's not "others do it too". I see you people really like fabricating quotes. What it is however, is an attempt to rebut the idea being put forth that child molestation is an exclusively Catholic problem.

The problem is, you people get mad when any evidence is presented that shows that it is a lot more widespread OUTSIDE of the Catholic church.

It's almost if you people *don't care* when a child is molested outside of the church. But that would be cyncical of me to state, and since you people have *so much* class, I would never make that accusation.

Lastly, this is an article about people who *are accused*, not convicted, released by a lawyer who has a finacial interest in children being molested, and seeing that those numbers are as high as possible.

98 posted on 02/13/2012 4:57:35 AM PST by Hacksaw
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