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To: CynicalBear
Why is it that the defense put forth by Catholics is always “others do it too”? Does that somehow vindicate the problem with the priests? To be frank, when I see that defense my stomach churns.

The fact is, there are deviants in all walks of life. The rate is no higher among Catholic priests.

Your hatred of Catholic priests is the really story here.

13 posted on 02/11/2012 11:16:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; RnMomof7; CynicalBear
Your hatred of Catholic priests is the really story here.

Yes, that is precisely the point. What Salvation posted was not a "defense" but a refutation of the oft-repeated lie that this is a uniquely Catholic problem and therefore a weapon to be used to attack the Church.

when RnMomof7 posts about (accused) Calvinist pedophiliac ministers hiding in plain sight then I'll think otherwise. Until then it's an excuse to take a cheap shot at Catholicism, as though it were a coherent argument against what the churh teaches.

14 posted on 02/11/2012 11:29:51 AM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; metmom; jtal
>> The rate is no higher among Catholic priests.<<

The rate is no higher for a supposed man of God than for others? Are you listening to what you say? Are you truly saying there is no higher standard for supposed men of God than for any other? My word, I would be ashamed to claim title to that statement.

I stand by my original statement. Instead of outrage or calls for justice I hear “the rate is no higher among Catholic priests”. I’m stunned.

I can assure you that if the leadership of any organization I claimed membership in was found to have committed those atrocities I would not rest until justice was served and they no longer served in the capacity of any form of leadership. If that organization acted in the manner the RCC has I would understand that they did not in any way represent the one true God.

15 posted on 02/11/2012 12:08:11 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The fact is, there are deviants in all walks of life. The rate is no higher among Catholic priests.

You don't know that at all...The only ones you are aware of are those who the Vatican wasn't able to hide in time...

19 posted on 02/11/2012 1:27:23 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; CynicalBear
The rate is no higher among Catholic priests.

Perhaps not...but then others don't claim to be Christ's Representatives either, as Catholicism claims their Priests are....and therein is the difference.

We can expect vile behavior from those apart from the Lord...it is their nature and they will and can do vile things.....but for the vast "Numbers" of those within the catholic church committing these crimes...and the frequency of, with the knowledge this is happening,.....

....while at the same time these same Priests wrap their filthy/evil fingers around the Wine glass and Waffer and then offer it to the church members... should give every member pause.

Furthermore once the acts are discovered in other institutes they are generally addressed...not hidden for ages and ages by shuffling the perverts to other areas where they can further their crimes against children...and then moved again and again....with the full knowledge these crimes ARE being committed against children.

There are no words to define that.....but worse are the Bishops who gave their seal of approval knowing these perverts had their hands on children where they don't belong and putting them in places that hurt these kids.

78 posted on 02/12/2012 6:56:36 PM PST by caww
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