Priests Accused of Molesting Children Hiding in Plain Sight

NBC California ^ | 2/11/12 | Frank Snepp and Tara Kangarlou |

[ArrogantBustard]

Wow ...

I made no accusation whatsoever.

I observed the fact, demonstrated on this forum, that many protestants object to the mere mention of protestant molesters.

I offer one possible explanation of that fact ... not an accusation, merely reporting on appearances.

For what possible good reason would a protestant object to the mention of protestant molesters?

Hmmmm?

The adherents of protestantISM have some explaining to do.

Or, they could resort to expelling the verbal equivalent of squid ink.

Their choice.

The protestant reaction to my comments has been very interesting ... and very damning of protestantISM.

Oh well ...

Back to observing.

[caww]

totally miss the point.

No lupie...they do get it.. they just are using the usual tactics to beat around the bush and protect themselves from the obvious decisions they would otherwise have to make make regarding their church.

It's not about denominations, schools, the press, lawyers or other institutes who have to address the issue...and they do address it...... It's about the long term cover-up and continued efforts to fight, deny, and move the blame somewhere other than where it belongs....all the while still pro-claiming their Priests represent Jesus Christ while using that position to feed their demented perversions, then finding safe-harbor behind the curtain of church leadership.

[caww]

my points

The points mentioned in the post had nothing to do with you....rather the article and the sexual perversion within the catholic church and coverup...as well as the denial and blame shifting which catholics continue to do to avoid the obvious.

Once again this lays on the doorstep of the catholic church to address and no amount of diversion is going to let them escape the outcome.

[NakedRampage]

"Cronos and Petrosius,

I had said elsewhere ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2841532/posts ) that the typical Roman Catholic response to pedophilia was to defend priests who are accused of it, to downplay pedophilia when it’s found within Roman Catholic leadership.

This thread is a perfect example. Instead of damning pedophiles, Roman Catholics defend their priests.

Your religion is sick. You need a reformation. 77 posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:47:18 PM by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)"

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And my comment proved your assertion false. I went on to show that Scripture FORBIDS necromancy, or communication with the dead. Those who seek to communicate with those who have died receive terrible punishment. But you go ahead and speak with those who’ve died. Good luck with that. Again, Scripture CLEARLY forbids “praying” to anyone who has died, be they a saint or a sinner. 402 posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 2:25:38 PM by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)

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Um. Yes, of course. So is that the entirety of your reply? Sounds like you’ve acquiesced. Nice.

388 posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:58:06 PM by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2828933/posts?page=28#28

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Ping to my reply to Cronos’ whining about my semantic faux pas. 28 posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:58:28 PM by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)

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I see lots of pronouns in this poster's comments. I thought those weren't allowed? Whatever shall the religion moderator do with him?

[ArrogantBustard]

ROFL!!!

So typical of protestantISM. ProtestantISM's position may be summarized as: "Let's talk about the filth in your house ... but don't you DARE mention the open sewer that I live in!!!"

ProtestantISM reminds me of Leftism ... the adherents of neither ideology seem capable of self examination.

Pity.

Bye ...

[NakedRampage]

"What’s with the *pronoun removed* phrases?

You are directly demeaning me, but using cute phrases to avoid “technically” doing so. That is not permissible on religion threads. I’ll let the religion moderator decide what to do with you."

FROM THE RELIGION MODERATOR'S HOMEPAGE: "When in doubt, review your use of the pronoun “you” before hitting “enter.”

My comment didn't use the word "you." Not even once.

[OLD REGGIE]

Poppycock.You are talking about high profile preachers who get caught. What is the usual practice of congregational churches? To discharge the pastor in order to avoid a split, because he will have his defenders. He will then go away, and is able either to find a new pulpit, or go off and start his own church. He must be discreet of course, but he has little to worry about because a deal has been made just to let him go, A Catholic priest, by contrast, remains a clerk within the Church until he is formally removed. Hence it is possible to trance his history if prosecutors can gain access to the books. With most Protestant churches, the record will have been purged, as part of the deal.

No doubt you have viable documentation of the above.

Patiently waiting........................................

[CynicalBear]

>> I made no accusation whatsoever.<<

Here’s your statement

>> >>So ... it seems that some protestants think that child molesting is perfectly fine ... if the molester happens to be a protestant.<<

Trying to hide behind that carefully chosen word “seems” doesn’t work when making insinuations.

I’ll repeat my challenge.

>> Find one comment by one Protestant who has ever said or intimated that child molestation by anyone is “perfectly fine”.<<

You also said:

>> and also protest mightily against the mere mention of child molesters who happen not to be Catholic.<<

So I will add another challenge. Show where any Protestant “protested mightily against the mere mention of child molesters who happen not to be Catholic”.

You also didn’t answer the question of whether or not the Catholic Church should be held to a higher standard since they claim “vicar” of Christ and that they are the only true church on earth.

You can “observe” all you want but when you make comments without being able to back up your assertions you remove yourself from observer status.

[NakedRampage]

Do you believe in the Holy Trinity?

I am aware that the Unitarian Church does not endorse the doctrine of the Trinity, but since you've added the caveat 'biblical' Unitarian inyour tagline, I wondered if you disagree with the mainline Unitarian doctrine.

[NakedRampage]

Incidently, I don't see any Catholics defending pedophiles, but that is a stock accusation made my protestants here.

My challenge; find a comment where a Catholic is defending a pedophile. Not a priest accused but not found guilty, find a comment made defending a convicted pedophile.

[OLD REGGIE]

When you find an example of Presbyterians or Methodists or Lutherans sending the offenders away, hiding them til the statues of limitations runs out...

What is a "statue of limitations," ignoramus?

What is a pedant, pedant?

[CynicalBear]

>> My challenge; find a comment where a Catholic is defending a pedophile.<<

I have seen no statement by a Catholics to that affect nor have I said or intimated anything like that. I see Catholics defending the church for not taking stronger action against pedophiles. So why would I have to find a Catholic defending a pedophile? Are you simply trying to deflect or obfuscate?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

So what is a "statue of limitations?"

Something you see when you look in the mirror?

[OLD REGGIE]

"I say that because the Church has been subjected to such close scrutiny that it amounts to persecutions in some cases. The prosector has even demanded an autopsy of a very aged Cardinal so as to rule out suicide/murder. This sort of fever is dangerous,.."

In another case a Pope had a long dead Pope dug up and tried for heresy. ^o)

This sort of fever is dangerous.

[NakedRampage]

“I’ll repeat my challenge.

>> Find one comment by one Protestant who has ever said or intimated that child molestation by anyone is “perfectly fine”.<<”

[NakedRampage]

Which pope was dug up and which pope had him dug up?

[OLD REGGIE]

Which pope was dug up and which pope had him dug up?

Stephen VI did. Formosus was the Pope he had dug up.

[boatbums]

WHO you stick up for and complain about when they are accused is just a huge neon arrow that points at the god that you are serving. How many of us do that? Instead, we should realize, as Joseph did that God is in control of all things, working thing out for His good pleasure. And as Paul exhorts us - to be content in all circumstances. Be careful who (or Who) you defend. It speaks volumes.

Very well said! As Christians, we should be "above reproach" in all we do and we should avoid any "appearance of evil", especially those called to the ministry. When Jesus warned us of sure persecution from the world, he said that they would "say all manner of evil against you falsely" for His sake. It's supposed to be false, not true. Those who do such evil should face the consequences of their actions. The upright Christian should be on guard at all times, knowing that the evil one would love nothing better than to catch someone in a compromising situation. Be sure your sins will find you out, we are reminded. Ministers of the Gospel should be extra vigilant.

[aruanan]

NOTHING TO UNDERSTAND beforehand! IT IS WHAT IT IS! God's Word IS The Final Authority. You conform to The Word, you don't conform God's Word to suite your understanding and/or agenda. You read His Word KNOWING that is the only TRUTH and everything else MUST conform to it! If it doesn't it's not from HIM! And don't assign it to HIM.

Think first, type later.

[Theo]

Cute.