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1 posted on 02/07/2012 2:11:27 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Until the 1940 Lambeth conference there never was a Christian Church or communion who approved of contraception. In that fateful year the Anglican Church of England gave the first tip of the hat to contraceptive practice, and slowly, the Protestant denominations all followed. But Catholics, Orthodox and Orthodox Jews have never changed.

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 02/07/2012 2:12:55 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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The church is not being forced to provide birth control or abortions.

It isn’t about religion or liberty. It’s about property.

The church has the choice to get out of the hospital business and turn the buildings over to the federal government cheap as its first step (25% of all hospitals), besides the VA, in taking over all hospitals.

I believe that is and has been Obama’s only goal in this.


3 posted on 02/07/2012 2:28:08 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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You can’t have “religious liberty” without “just plain liberty.”

Every country that has socialized medicine gives up liberty by the bucketful to enact their socialized medical schemes.

It would appear that the Church was naive enough to think that there was some path towards socialized medicine that was going to respect their “religious liberty” at the same time compromising the liberty of everyone else involved.

So, how’s that working out?


4 posted on 02/07/2012 2:29:39 PM PST by NVDave
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No employer or insurance company, religious or non-, should be forced to privilege anti-life drugs and surgery over the treatment of actual illness or injury. No copayment for contraceptives, but there is for statins? No deductible for sterilization surgery, but there is for angioplasty or joint replacement? Poppycock. (Thank you, Rick Santorum, for the great word, which is much more offensive than y’all think it is.)

Everyone should be against this ... especially every sick person, whose costs will go up so that some people can pretend there are no costs to their sexual behavior choices.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 3:08:13 PM PST by Tax-chick (Email your grandmother!)
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9 posted on 02/07/2012 3:23:49 PM PST by narses
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4.Who will prevent public authorities from…impos[ing] their use on everyone. (HV # 17)

Yes, and once the Catholic Church is driven out of the hospital business, one less protective buffer will exist between the people of this country and coercive population control policies like those that have been imposed upon the people of China.

This HHS mandate, if allowed to stand, is merely a "preview of coming attractions."

So people who want to keep yapping about "mean old mother church" had better take a good hard look at what the "wicked stepmother" will look like.

10 posted on 02/07/2012 4:29:52 PM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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‘I am going to stick with fellow Catholics’ in Pres. Obama’s war on Catholics. Wherein Fr. Z rants.
Unholy War
Six Things Everyone Should Know about the HHS Mandate
Santorum: Obama Hostile to Christians
Understanding Oppostion to the HHS Mandate (Part 1): Why the Church Won’t Pay for Contracept
Standing with the Bishops [Catholic Caucus]
Updated: *167* Bishops (More Than 90% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
Updated: *153* Bishops (Over 80% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
An Affront Catholics Agree On [Liberal and Conservative Catholics Against Obama Mandate]
Army Silenced Chaplains Last Sunday

Catholic Military Archdiocese & Chaplains interfered with last Sunday by Pres. Obama’s Admin
The Anti-Catholic President v. the Catholic Bishops
Sen. Rubio introduces bill to reverse Obama birth control mandate
Churches balk at birth control rule - Catholics won’t comply, Bishop Kevin Rhoades says
Protestants and Jews declare to White House: We stand with Catholics
Checking the Air Outside [Bp. Zubik's follow up to Obama's “To Hell with You”]
Mohler [Southern Baptist] Says Insurance Mandate Not Just 'Catholic' Issue
An Open Letter to President Barack Obama Concerning Recent Tyranny (With Pictures!)
Lincoln bishop: prepare for 'suffering' under HHS mandate
Bishop David Zubik confronts Obama
Obama’s ‘war on the church’

Pope hits out at 'radical secularism'
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
Bruskewitz: Fight Insurance Ruling [Sebelius a "bitter, fallen away Catholic"]
Letter from Archbishop John G. Vlazny on the matter of freedom of conscience and decisions by HHS
Bishop Olmsted's Letter to Catholics [Catholic Caucus]
Liberty for the Amish & Quakers but not Catholics. . .
Contraception mandate prompts Peoria bishop to instate St. Michael Prayer (Catholic Caucus)
Phoenix bishop (Olmstead): defy feds on birth control
A letter from Archbishop Dennis M. Schnurr concerning HHS edict

Speak honestly: abortion is ‘the killing of tiny human beings in the womb’ – Denver bishop
Bishop [Daniel Jenky] Blasts Secularist Intolerance, Calls For ‘Assertive Action’ to Defend Church
(Pittsburgh Bishop Zubik comments:) HHS delays rule on contraceptive coverage
Dolan: Natural law, not religious preference, dictates all life sacred
Religious leaders blast HHS over contraception mandate
Mandated Contraception, Sterilization: Caesar Demands Church Violate Conscience
OBAMA’S CONTEMPT FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (mandates coverage of sterilization & contraception)
Implications of Obama Admin move to force Cath hospitals to provide contraception and sterilizations
Catholic doctors’ group launches petition against contraception mandate
Contraception mandate tramples religious freedom, US bishops say

12 posted on 02/07/2012 9:29:06 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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