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To: NYer

The church is not being forced to provide birth control or abortions.

It isn’t about religion or liberty. It’s about property.

The church has the choice to get out of the hospital business and turn the buildings over to the federal government cheap as its first step (25% of all hospitals), besides the VA, in taking over all hospitals.

I believe that is and has been Obama’s only goal in this.


3 posted on 02/07/2012 2:28:08 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
The church has the choice to get out of the hospital business and turn the buildings over to the federal government cheap...

Dear friend, like an intricately woven tapestry, the Catholic Church carries out its mission to serve, through hospitals, colleges, universities, and a host of other organizations. No one, regardless of their inability to pay, is ever turned away.

Obama's goal is to attack ALL religious groups beginning with the largest one. If they can succeed here, the rest will collapse like dominoes. That is the plan.

5 posted on 02/07/2012 2:52:14 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Part of what Obama wants is to cause the exodus of the Church from running hospitals. This is because they Church has approximately 11% of the sum total of hospitals in the country.

But, he also wants to re-engineer society as he wishes it to be. That means that any agency or organization whose teachings, ideals, theology or philosophy run contrary to O’s variant of socialism must falter and fall, in his eyes. The largest and best-known of those is the Catholic Church. Obama wants the influence of the Church, and any others who would oppose him, to want.

So what’s he gonna do? Just a guess, here. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that he has one of the myriad agencies under his control use regulations to make something roughly equating to a same-sex union law or laws. Suppose that the regs in question make it tantamount to a crime to forbid same-sex unions from happening in any facility in the US. That’d give the impetus to charge those at whichever facilities didn’t allow for the unions.

Obama likes regulation, since he’s is a true bureaucrat, as well as a socialist. It’s able to be dictated by him and those who agree with him, there’s little recourse, no messy congressional hearings or posturing from undependable politicians, AND it can be couched in a way which sympathetic ears may hear as being more benign than it really is.

If Obama gets the Catholic Church out of the hospital business, he wins, since that’s the largest other player, aside from the government. If the Church fights him on it, he’ll try to get the courts involved to be those sympathetic to him, and he wins. If genuine Catholic organizations, along with his evil planted fake ones (Catholics for the Common Good, anyone?) weaken their resolve, than he’ll use that in PR, and he wins. And this is in addition to the fact that Church teachings are completely contra-Obama’s view of life in this country. So to him, any of this is a win.

But make no mistake, He is after the Catholic Church. And once he feels he’s done there, his eyes will focus on any and all other groups who oppose his actions and words. He’s a coward, but that doesn’t remove the evil, it intensifies it. The fact that his personal hands won’t be busy does not stop the hands he will direct. Those will be any convenient ones under his command.

Pray, brother, for your country, and those in it.


8 posted on 02/07/2012 3:12:53 PM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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