Posted on 02/05/2012 4:48:02 PM PST by NYer
Ann Archy:
Bishop Gregory [former Bishop of Bellville, IL] is now Archbishop Gregory of Atlanta. The current Bishop of Bellville, IL, is Braxton, who is also Black.
A good Father will adlib in the Homily.
Ours uses that to teach and explain, and it is something I always respect, enjoy and listen to closely. He runs after Mass sessions too to discuss things and only one person leaves their seat for that (local pub landlord and he has to get back and open the pub).
I predicted that it would drive priests out and I was laughed at, at the time, Flinn said, but here it is, the truth.
Typical media method. Find a dissident Catholic to comment on a story about a dissident Catholic. And get him to tell you a convenient lie.
It has nothing to do with the new missal, actually. This priest had been failing to follow the old missal for years. Now it's finally caught up to him--years too late. But better late than never.
I didn't know what color Bishop Braxton was until I went searching for "African American bishops" to see what kind of numbers we were talking about -- and there he was, right at the top of the list, since his name begins with "B".
Our rector has been here since forever (actually, since 1997 and part-time before that) but that's because he founded and helps run the parish school and the college (yep, an actual college, albeit a small one) here, and because he was in the Chancery and was diocesan administrator between bishops twice.
But you're right that keeping people in the same place for years does risk that sort of personal cult following. Look (if you can bear it) at that awful Fr. Pfleger up in Chicago that has been at St. Sabina's for 31 years. He's turned the parish into something like Jeremiah Wright's church, any resemblance to Catholicism is purely accidental. What a loon.
Our rector usually ties in some history, explains a detail of the Gospel, connects it with modern life, and calls on the congregation to apply it to themselves.
He does have periodic 'state of the parish' meetings, where anybody can ask questions (if they dare - he is a rather intimidating bullet-headed Irishman - but I find him very cordial and reasonable. You just have to be pretty sure of your ground!)
I don't think it's the color - I think it's the personality.
He should have been promptly dismissed. Period. These are priests raised and ordained in the sixties and think they don’t need to adhere toCatholic discipline.
It’s all about me. Look at me. Look at MEEEEE!
You’re obtuse.
I got tired of the adlibbing by priests and other inventions many years ago. These men seem to think that one can change the form without changing the substance.
The Mass is not the private property of a single priest, or bishop for that matter. It belongs to the whole People of God. Unauthorized, unilateral changes to the missal damage what the common property of the Church, wounds the Liturgy, and causes confusion and scandal among lay participants.
If priests leave active ministry for this reason alone - which I doubt, for I think this is more an excuse for reasons not expressed - then adieu. Better no priest than a bad one.
-Theo
“Things like this didn’t happen when the Mass was Latin. The Latin Mass also being the same all over”
When I read this you expressed my thoughts exactly. When they did this they tossed at least 500 years of tradition. Trashing magnificent music and liturgical rites which go back to Christ’s time and replaced leastwise the music with circus tent revivalism.
“I got tired of ad libbing priests ....”
I absolutely hated it when priests made up their own prayers. Why is it taking so long to get back on track?
Magnificent music and liturgical rites were trashed - sanctuaries and altars with relics were pitched- women cantors are on the altar ... circus tent revivalism ...
By the way, that priest has my gaydar on alert as well.
Yes, this piece is clearly in favor of the priest. I witnessed an interesting event last fall when I was at a local church that I occasionally attend. The priest spent the homily explaining each change in the new translation. After he explained each change, he expounded upon why he thought that particular change was silly or unnecessary!
Good. Do I seem harsh?
Now I would like to see Archbishop Dolan do the same to the ad-libbing Jesuits at my alma mater, Fordham University.
Pride was the Sin of Adam.
Obedience is the example of Christ:
Father, if thou wilt, remove this chalice from me: but yet not my will, but thine be done. Luke 22:42
And if a priest knows enough to ad lib in Latin -- he also knows enough not to!
I can recall going to Mass in the Caribbean when no Anglican church was available. Whether we were on a French, Dutch, or Spanish-speaking island, the Mass was always the same. The homily . . . not so much! :-)
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