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To: cloudmountain

“the Bible was collated by the Catholics and not until (finally) in 420 A.D. “

2/3 of the “Bible” was in place before the founding of the Church.
The collation was in response to the abundance of false books that circulated.
It is debatable as to “Catholics” doing this. Orthodox Christians may have some thoughts for you there.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 7:08:39 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Proud RINOmney Denialist since 2007!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; cloudmountain
It is debatable as to “Catholics” doing this. Orthodox Christians may have some thoughts for you there

At the time the Canon was established, we were one church.

13 posted on 02/03/2012 7:37:45 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
2/3 of the “Bible” was in place before the founding of the Church. The collation was in response to the abundance of false books that circulated. It is debatable as to “Catholics” doing this. Orthodox Christians may have some thoughts for you there.

And then after Christ's resurrection they took out 7 books and parts of two more.

14 posted on 02/03/2012 7:46:55 AM PST by verga (Only the ignorant disdain intelligence.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
2/3 of the “Bible” was in place before the founding of the Church. The collation was in response to the abundance of false books that circulated. It is debatable as to “Catholics” doing this. Orthodox Christians may have some thoughts for you there.

And then after Christ's resurrection they took out 7 books and parts of two more.

15 posted on 02/03/2012 7:48:08 AM PST by verga (Only the ignorant disdain intelligence.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“2/3 of the “Bible” was in place before the founding of the Church.”
You are of course referring to the Septuagint. How many protestant Bibles use that?

“It is debatable as to “Catholics” doing this. Orthodox Christians may have some thoughts for you there.”

There was ONE Catholic Church in 420. The Great Schism came later.


19 posted on 02/03/2012 8:31:47 AM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

More than 2/3 and ALL the doctrinal/vital parts.

The 4 Gospels, and the Epistles of Paul, according to ALL available evidence have always been accepted by Christians since the 1st Century. 2nd & 3rd John, 2nd Peter, (very minor books) Hebrews (with its anonymous authorship) and Revelation (the Apocalypse of John) and a few other less important books, were doubted and debated about—but even these were widely accepted, from the earliest days. ALL of the key doctrines of Christianity can be proven from ONLY the books that were always accepted.

It’s an incredible lie that the Church was without the Bible until AD 420. Formal recognition of something...and its existence and use, are two different things.

Roman Popes didn’t even rise into predominance until after the 400s anyway....and Rome was one of only 5 Provinces (the other four stayed with the Eastern Orthodox, when Rome did a schism from them in AD 1054).

The claim that the Roman Catholic church wrote the Bible is an ignorant lie on its face.


167 posted on 02/04/2012 9:53:35 AM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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