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From Rome to Christ
Banner of Truth Trust ^ | Gearoid Marley

Posted on 01/03/2012 3:30:48 PM PST by Gamecock

Not many people get the opportunity to attend seminary. In an amazing way I have attended two. The first was training for the Roman Catholic priest­hood in Ireland and the second at a conservative Evangelical seminary in England.

Raised a Catholic . . . but not knowing God Like most boys in the Republic of Ireland in the 1980s, I was brought up a Roman Catholic. My parents taught me to live a good life, say my prayers, and attend mass every Sunday. I believed there was a God, but I didn't know him personally. I prayed as my mother taught me, but I never knew whether or not God was really listening. I attended confession monthly and did many penances. Conscious of my sinfulness, I hoped that God would accept me into heaven if I did enough good works. I tried to live the best life I could. It was like balancing the accounts, hoping that my credits (good works) would cancel my debits (sins). Zealous to please God, I was just eleven years old when I decided to become a Roman Catholic priest. I told the local priest, but he said I would have to wait until I was eighteen before I could enter the seminary.

During my teenage years I got involved in much sinful behaviour. I rebelled against God and disobeyed his commandments. I loved my sin, but I hated that miserable life and started to cry out to God. I realise now that God was working in my heart. He showed me I was a sinner. I longed to be right with him. This became the focus of my life. I knew that I needed to be saved from my sins. I went on a pilgrimage to a famous Roman Catholic shrine. I ate oatcakes, drank black tea, and crawled on my knees around the Stations of the Cross over three days to do penance for my sins. I fasted and meditated but never knew pardon for sin. I wanted to know forgiveness, but how?

Training for the priesthood

At the age of nineteen, and after checking different possible organisations, I finally decided to join the Society of Missions to Africa (SMA). They are a society of priests who live together in small communities in different parts of the world, seeking to convert pagans to the Roman religion. I entered the Roman Catholic Seminary located in Maynooth, County Kildare, Ireland. During my two years at seminary, I learned about religion and philosophy but there were no biblical studies. I attended daily mass and monthly confession but, alas, there was no teaching on forgiveness for sin. We had set times of prayer as a community - morning, evening, and night. I heard many talks that were focused on pleasing God by doing charitable works and buying favour with God through the church. I also heard a lot about how to use psychology to counsel people spiritually. Not once did I hear how to be reconciled to God through Christ who alone could forgive my sins.

I began to read the Bible (a Protestant translation my parents had given to me). As I read it, I asked the priests serious questions about the religious rituals in the Roman Catholic faith, but they couldn't show me any scriptural basis whatsoever for so much of their superstition and their many traditions. I discovered that the Bible does not promote the veneration of Mary as practiced in the Roman Catholic Church. The official teaching of the Roman Church is that Mary does not necessarily answer prayers but rather intercedes on the Catholic's behalf and prays for them. However, the Bible teaches that she is a sinner: in the famous 'Magnificat' she is found praying to God her Saviour. Mary knew she had sinned and we find her rejoicing in God her Saviour, the one conceived in her womb by the Holy Spirit - Jesus Christ her Lord.

I realised that rosaries and prayers to the saints have no scriptural basis. Mary is addressed in Roman Catholic prayers (eg 'O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee'), but the Saviour teaches us to pray to the Father directly. Indeed, the Bible warns us against ritualistic prayer. This described me exactly: outwardly very holy and pious, but inwardly my heart was sinful and corrupt. Also, the Roman Church teaches its followers to pray to the saints. There is a saint for almost every circumstance, such as St Christopher for travel, St Anthony for lost property, St Martin de Porres for healing, St Joseph for the dying, St Vincent de Paul for the poor, and St Jude for lost causes. Unable to find anything in Scripture to support these things, I asked the priests many questions, and I was told that these Church traditions could not be questioned.

I was conscious of my sin and longed to have assurance of salvation. I asked the priests but I was told that we could never be sure of salvation until we died. I was instructed to attend the priest for confession, but I did not find that in Scripture either. The Bible instructs us to confess our sins to God, not to human priests. I also realised that as a priest I would have to hear people's confessions and absolve them. I was confused. How could I forgive other people's sins, when I did not even know forgiveness myself? I now realise that the Lord was lifting the veil from my eyes to show me that true faith and forgiveness for sin is to be found in Christ alone.

Eventually, I left the Roman seminary in 1995. The Society had decided that I was not suitable, but the Lord, through his Word, had shown me the errors of Rome and that I shouldn't continue training for the priesthood. I had entered the seminary thinking that I would find God's answer to my sins. When I left, I thought that I had finished with God - but he hadn't finished with me! Over the next two years I lived in Dublin and continued my search for God. I went to various Protestant churches and also met people from different cults. One cult told me that if I was to be baptized again, then I would be born again. This sounded too much like the Roman Church and its teaching of justification by works, so I had nothing more to do with them.

Going to England

I went to London in preparation for nursing studies. On the first night I met a man who told me how I could know forgiveness for sin. He gave me a leaflet that emphasized the need to trust in Jesus Christ alone. I read this leaflet many times, but still had no peace with God. Although well physically, I became very depressed spiritually.

I knew that I was condemned if I was not converted. The Bible told me that if I did not believe then the wrath of God abode upon me. Then I read 'There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit' (Rom. 8:1). This was a constant challenge to me. I was alone in a huge city with no one to turn to for spiritual help. How my heart yearned to be right with God.

While pursuing my nursing studies, I met some students who seemed to know God. I attended their church where the Bible was central to the whole service. The sermon was preached from the Bible - that was something completely new to me. Deep down I knew these people were genuine Christians. I asked many questions and started to attend the church regularly. About this time, a small Christian group was meeting in my halls of residence. I went along aiming to disrupt the meetings, but slowly began to be drawn to Christ. I saw that they had something that I didn't have - peace with God and a real love for Christ. They knew the reality of 'Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ' (Rom. 5:1). One of them gave me J. I. Packer's book, Knowing God. I read the book and saw that I too could know God in a personal way.

My conversion

One Sunday morning, 8th February 1998, I was listening to a sermon from Luke 10:30-37 about the Good Samaritan. The preacher spoke of Jesus Christ being like the Good Samaritan - coming to help us in our wretched sinful state - while revealing that the Holy Spirit gives new life to lost sinners. He also urged the listeners to repent of sin and trust in Jesus Christ alone for forgiveness. I called upon Jesus Christ to save me, 'For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved' (Rom. 10:13). There and then, I knelt down in my room and prayed, 'O God, I know that you have sent your Son Jesus Christ into the world to save sinners. Will you save me? I trust in Christ alone and ask that you would come into my life by the power of your Holy Spirit and make me new.' I felt a huge weight of guilt and sin taken from my heart. As soon as I opened my eyes a deep sense of peace came over me. At that moment I knew that I was a Christian and truly forgiven of all my sins. The Bible became the living Word of God and he was speaking to me as I read. I realised that we are not saved by works but by grace, 'For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast' (Eph. 2:8,9). I was baptised in London as a believer in September 1998. After my baptism I struggled with temptations and trials, but the Lord was my constant refuge: 'God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble'(Psa. 46:1).

My life as a Christian

On my first visit back to Ireland, I did not know of a Christian church, so I went to mass with my parents. I realised the priest was re-enacting a sacrifice that was accomplished once and for all on the cross of Calvary (Heb. 9:26; 1 Pet. 3:18). For this reason, I couldn't attend the Roman Catholic mass any longer. As a young Irish man, swearing was second nature to me. Very soon after my conversion this dried up. Worldly pursuits like drinking in pubs and going to nightclubs ceased. Prayer and communion with God became a whole new area of experience. I had learned formal rote prayer as a young boy, but now I began truly to pray from my heart. This is still an amazing experience to me: to be able to lift my heart to God as my Father and know that he is listening and will answer my prayers according to his will.

My family were upset that I had left the Roman Catholic faith. At first they thought it was another religious phase I was going through, but they soon realised that this was different. However, the Lord gave me opportunities to share the true gospel with them. About a year later my youngest brother was converted. What joy filled my heart!

Since my conversion, the Lord has taught me so much from his Word. I am especially thankful to one man from the church in London who helped me to study the Bible. We did a complete overview of the Scriptures together, as well as an in-depth study of the doctrines of grace (Calvinism). The glorious truth that God is sovereign in salvation and reaches out in mercy to sinners is truly humbling and amazing. That God, the Creator and Sustainer of the world, should call wretched sinners to himself illustrates his grace. What a joyful day it will be when all his people are united with him in heaven.

Christian service and ministry

About a year after my conversion I was seeking the Lord about serving him. One Lord's Day evening after the service I was praying to the Lord asking him where he wanted me to serve. I read 2 Timothy 3:16-4:5 and was profoundly challenged. I had never studied this portion of God's Word before. It was impressed on me that this was how the Lord wanted me to serve him - to preach the Word. I graduated and worked for a year in the National Treatment Centre for Alcohol and Drugs. Some of the patients were hardened criminals; others were involved in sordid areas of society due to their addictions. I realised the psychological treatment was not dealing with their real problem: their unpardoned sin. I couldn't witness openly to the patients but some enquired what kept me through the difficult times in my life. I told them that it was my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, and they were amazed. Both my house­mate and a Roman Catholic friend were converted and baptised during this time. It was a great privilege to see the Lord use even me to win sinners to Christ. I conducted a Bible Study in Colossians with some Jehovah's Witnesses. They began to seek Christ but their leaders visited and put an end to it. I pray for these people, that the Lord would open their eyes to his truth. As I taught young boys in a Crusaders Class I soon realized that children can be taught the deep truths of Scripture in a simple, understandable way.

The Lord opened up the way for me to study at London Theological Seminary. The lasting memories of my time there are of the nightly prayer meetings with fellow students and the godly men who taught us theology and prepared us for the ministry.


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To: boatbums

Actually, I didn’t fail to cite the references. Those are the charges of his excommunication; perhaps I wasn’t clear enough.

As for Beggars All: Luther wrote many volumes, many are an embarrassment to modern Luthers, like his calls for the severe repression of the Jews, that commonfolk were born to be fodder for cannons, that Christians should welcome the destruction of Western nations by Islamic Turks. So just because it’s not in Beggars All, I’m hardly going to withhold referencing it.

>> It fits Paul’s definition of an accursed Gospel since it misses the whole point of grace. Something Luther understood pretty well. <<

From those quotes, not too well at all.

The Catholic Church told Luther: Here is where we find out doctrines, in James, in Revelation, in Wisdom of Sirach, in 2 Peter, in Hebrews, in the books of the Maccabees. Luther did not refute the Catholic Church, but condemned books such as these, yes, including Revelation, James, Hebrew, etc. Luther considered these works of scripture to be what Paul was calling an accursed Gospel.


341 posted on 01/09/2012 10:22:52 PM PST by dangus
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To: caww

>> First of all....pointing the finger at other denominations and secular groups that have the same problems only gives the appearance that the Church is trying to mitigate its own failures. <<

What a laugh for you to say that. You’re the one who has abandoned any discussion of doctrine, and is merely slinging mud.


342 posted on 01/09/2012 10:25:21 PM PST by dangus
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To: narses

If Catholic priests have the power to grant forgiveness from sin, why don’t they also possess the power to perform miracles?

Jesus said it was just as easy for him to say.. “Arise and walk” as to say “Thy sins are forgiven thee”.. (Luke 5:23)...... .... “But that you may know that the Son of man has power on earth to forgive sins he said to the paralytic ...I say to thee, arise, take up thy pallet and go to thy house.” (Luke 5:24).

Why can’t the Catholic priests do the same?... Since they cannot then it’s easy to draw the conclusion they do not have authority to forgive sins.


343 posted on 01/09/2012 10:27:24 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

>> First of all....pointing the finger at other denominations and secular groups that have the same problems only gives the appearance that the Church is trying to mitigate its own failures. <<

Just this week, among the Baptists (whose church is 1/4 the size of the American Catholic church, yet outnumbers them manifold in recent years):

1/9: Former youth pastor charged with molestation
1/6: Former Baptist pastor, fresh out of jail after serving only three years, talks about starting a new church
1/3: Minister, charged with raping teen, now accused of on-line solicitation of a minor.

So, you’re citing one archdiocese, which, incidentally is equivalent to 1/4 of all Southern Baptists in population. The cases you cite reach back over 50 years. Yet in one week, look what the Baptists did.

So knock off your mudslinging.


344 posted on 01/09/2012 10:31:11 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

What does doctrine have to do with felony rape of children?Look, you’re the one who brought up ‘others’ aside from the catholic churches having a problem with sex abuse in their churches...I was responding to that...and it certainly wasn’t mud slinging...but facts as they are known.


345 posted on 01/09/2012 10:32:11 PM PST by caww
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To: dangus
You're once again attempting to divert the attention away from the obvious...but then I should expect as much since your leadership plays duck and dodge when it's faced with the issue of child felony rape within it's Priesthood.... It's a pattern which has equally as obvious trickled down thru the rank and file to divert the attention away from themselves.

As long as the finger keeps getting pointed away from the breadth and width of the pedophiles and homosexuals within your church...hidden for centuries..and the Priests who do those dastardly acts...then the church will never be more than a house full phoney hot air.

Additionally...Had the catholic church not made continuous claims to be the one and ONLY holy and true church, and the body of Christ, then perhaps the stain of their sins against children...and covering it up.. and protecting the criminals,..and enabling further crimes to occur, rather than report to the authorities and have the mess handled properly, it would not have fared so badly in the eyes of the public......but because they did so/and do now they are rightly perceived as even more horrible than when found among others.

346 posted on 01/09/2012 10:52:56 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

>> What does doctrine have to do with felony rape of children?Look, you’re the one who brought up ‘others’ aside from the catholic churches having a problem with sex abuse in their churches...I was responding to that...and it certainly wasn’t mud slinging...but facts as they are known. <<

I have nothing more to say to you. You’ve made it plain that you have no ability to defend the insane lies of the thread’s author, or even have a reasonable discussion of doctrine; now you’re just making up your own little reality. You started mudslinging in posts 295, 296, 310, 317, and 318. The first several replies to your mudslinging I made were purely doctrinal.


347 posted on 01/09/2012 10:57:53 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

From your own Churches database....and keep in mind this is only those caught and accused...many aren’t.

Overview of the BishopAccountability.org Database
of Publicly Accused Roman Catholic Priests, Nuns, Brothers,
Deacons, and Seminarians in the United States

This database is intended to provide the best possible answer to a simple question: According to a church-sponsored report based on diocesan records, 4,392 Catholic priests in the United States have been accused since 1950 of sexually abusing minors. Updates have increased the USCCB’s count to 5,600 priests accused through 2008.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/db_overview.htm


348 posted on 01/09/2012 11:01:04 PM PST by caww
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To: caww; dangus
child felony rape

REad this article: Wis. man cleared after girl admits lying about sexual assault

At what point do you throw a man to the dogs because of an accusation? How do you know if the accusation is true or false?

349 posted on 01/10/2012 4:50:38 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: caww

It’s the systemic, organized, ongoing cover ups at the highest levels that show the entire organization is corrupt. Anyone who believes that apostolic succession would allow that type of evil is not being honest with themselves.


350 posted on 01/10/2012 5:52:18 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Gamecock; metmom; narses; Salvation
Tenth Rose
Miracles

While Saint Dominic was preaching the Rosary in Carcasone, a heretic made fun of the miracles and the fifteen mysteries of the Holy Rosary, and this prevented other heretics from being converted. As a punishment God suffered fifteen thousand devils to enter the man's body.

His parents took him to Father Dominic to be delivered from the evil spirits. He started to pray and begged everyone who was there to say the Rosary out loud with him, and at each Hail Mary Our Lady drove out one hundred devils out of the heretic's body and they came out in the form of red hot coals.

After he had been delivered he abjured his former errors, was converted and joined the Rosary Confraternity. Several of his associates did the same, having been greatly moved by his punishment and by the power of the Rosary.

The learned Franciscan, Carthagena, as well as several other authors, say that an extraordinary event took place in 1482: The Venerable James Sprenger and other religious of his order were zealously working to reestablish devotion to the Holy Rosary and also to erect a Confraternity in the city of Cologne.

Unfortunately two priests who were famous for their preaching ability were jealous of the great influence they were exerting through preaching the Rosary. So these two Fathers spoke against this devotion whenever they had a chance, and as they were very eloquent and had a great reputation they persuaded many people not to join the Confraternity.

One of them, bound and determined to achieve his wicked end, wrote a special sermon against the Rosary and planned to give it the following Sunday. But when it came time for the sermon he never appeared and, after a certain amount of waiting somebody went to fetch him. He was found dead, and evidently had died alone without any one to help him and without seeing a priest.

After convincing himself that death had been due to natural causes, the other priest decided to carry out his friend's plan and hoped to put an end to the Confraternity of the Rosary. However, when the day came for him to preach and it was time to give the sermon God punished him by striking him down with paralysis which deprived him both of the use of his limbs and of his power of speech.

At last he admitted his sin and likewise that of his friend and immediately, in his heart of hearts, he silently besought Our Lady to help him. He promised her that is she would only cure him he would preach the Holy Rosary with as much zeal as that with which he had formerly fought against it. For this end he implored her to restore his health and speech which she did, and finding himself instantaneously cured he rose up like another Saul, a persecutor turned defender of the Holy Rosary. He publicly acknowledged his former error and ever after preached the wonders of the Most Holy Rosary with great zeal and eloquence.

I am quite sure that freethinkers and ultra-critical people of today will question the truth of the stories in this little book, in the very same way that they have always questioned most things, but all that I have done has been to copy them from very good contemporary writers and also, in part, from a book that was written only a short time ago: "The Mystical Rose Tree," by the Reverend Antonin Thomas, O.P.

Everyone knows that there are three different kinds of faith by which we believe different kinds of stories:
• To stories of Holy Scripture we own DIVINE FAITH;
• To stories concerning other than religious subjects, which do not militate against common sense and which are written by trustworthy authors, we pay the tribute of HUMAN FAITH; whereas
• To stories about holy subjects which are told by good authors and are not in the slightest degree contrary to reason, faith, or morals (even though they may sometimes deal with happenings which are above the ordinary run of events) we pay the tribute of PIOUS FAITH.

I agree that we must be neither too credulous nor too critical and that we should remember that "virtue takes the middle course" - keeping a happy medium in all things in order to find just where truth and virtue lie. But on the other hand I know equally well that charity easily leads us to believe all that is not contrary to faith or morals:
"Charity ....believeth all things;" *1 in the same way pride induces us to doubt even well authenticated stories on the plea that they are not to be found in the Bible.

This is one of the devil's traps; heretics of the past who denied Tradition have fallen into it and overcritical people of today are falling into it too without even realizing it. People of this kind refuse to believe what they do not understand or what is not to their liking, simply because of their own spirit of pride and independence.

Link to the Full Document: The Secret of the Rosary
351 posted on 01/10/2012 9:21:17 AM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: CynicalBear
Anyone who believes that apostolic succession would allow that type of evil is not being honest with themselves.

Correct.....Which is why they will never accept the truth presented about Peter, their Preisthood, the Pope without these there's nothing there.

They have made the Pope/Mary/Priests and leadership their God IMO. No different than other organizations who have a leader and co-horts the membership follow.

You know when I began looking closer at catholic doctrines and the beliefs it's members adhere to I never would have imagined possible that which they believe and practice....in fact I did try very hard to understand...it's been an eyeopener. I use to think it was just all fluff and such....but that the Gospel of Christ was clearly central. I was sooo mistaken. And the posters here just continue to affirm catholicism is far from the truth which Jesus intends we know.

352 posted on 01/10/2012 9:24:23 AM PST by caww
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To: Cronos
At what point do you throw a man to the dogs because of an accusation? How do you know if the accusation is true or false?

At what point do you sacrifice a child's safety? not to mention the devastation to their very soul and that of their families?

When the emphasis is on helping the abuser ...not helping the victim.. nor identifying other victims.... This is NOT repentance in any Christian understanding of the term....and this is not just a problem of individuals, but of the catholic church itself.

Furthermore if the actions of the catholic hierarchy, and the pope himself, with respect to these crimes are measured by the words of Jesus... then the crimes, the coverups, and the special pleading that is going on merit the following quotation:

"whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened round his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea"

Moreover...had the catholic church addressed the issues over the decades instead of hiding and protecting their clergy it's doubtful if any false accusations would have come about....but now rather than convict the very criminals they are retiring them, and a host of other measures taken which continues to "cover" the church and it;s leadership

Additionally,... because the church is "paying off" victims...they have brought on themselves this entire mess...and left themselves wide open for false accusations as well...the blame is completely on the church for the entire outcome...fairly or not the ultimate responsibility is on the church and it's leadership who were well aware of these happenings.

Gross sin has a price....covering that sin will always be even worse...it has been no secret among the membership or leadership that these rapes and abuse against children were occurring for decades.....there are no innocents among the membership or leadership....it's been a part of the catholic culture and all were aware of it.

353 posted on 01/10/2012 9:49:02 AM PST by caww
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To: caww
This is the one that shocked me the most.

“Jesus' teaching on the separation of the sheep from the goats is based on the works that were done during their lives, not just on their acceptance of Christ as Savior. In fact, this teaching even demonstrates that those who are ultimately saved do not necessarily have to know Christ.” [http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html#salvation-I]

Anyone who doesn’t disavow that statement is surely not saved.

354 posted on 01/10/2012 10:54:33 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
That is a huge WOW!....and evidences they don't understand the scriptures...which would indicate they don't know Christ Jesus either as Salvation itself is based on His finished work.....but moreso how can they then understand the “Book of Life” ? They are so off base that their very salvation is at a mighty risk....only the Lord can remove that veil and as long as they see Catholicism as the means to their salvation then likely most are indeed lost.
355 posted on 01/10/2012 11:09:42 AM PST by caww
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To: thesaleboat
While Saint Dominic was preaching the Rosary in Carcasone, a heretic made fun of the miracles and the fifteen mysteries of the Holy Rosary, and this prevented other heretics from being converted. As a punishment God suffered fifteen thousand devils to enter the man's body.

His parents took him to Father Dominic to be delivered from the evil spirits. He started to pray and begged everyone who was there to say the Rosary out loud with him, and at each Hail Mary Our Lady drove out one hundred devils out of the heretic's body and they came out in the form of red hot coals.

After he had been delivered he abjured his former errors, was converted and joined the Rosary Confraternity. Several of his associates did the same, having been greatly moved by his punishment and by the power of the Rosary.

Yeah...

right.....

I have some land in FL to sell you. Real nice waterfront property.....

356 posted on 01/10/2012 12:04:07 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: caww
"The non-Catholic is not part of Christ’s Mystical Body, which is coterminous with the Catholic Church, whose dogmas, morals, and priorities are those of her Mystical Head, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity. We learn them from Scripture and Tradition as authoritatively proclaimed by an infallible magisterium. By the very fact that a non-Catholic is a non-Catholic, he is not possessed of this sacred deposit of faith. He therefore lacks the proper supernatural outlook on reality. It is good when he agrees with us, but it is not enough; agreeing with God on one or two points is not sufficient. In charity, we must labor to help our non-Catholic friend agree with God on all points."

The Real Gospel of Life
357 posted on 01/10/2012 12:05:03 PM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: thesaleboat

I don’t generally respond to articles which are posted to permote catholicism without a comment from the poster. There’s enough of those, and volumes of literature flooding here that we already have to scroll by to get to the posters understanding of what it’s saying to them..let alone if there’s any comment at all.

So if you have an opinion on what you believe then we can dialogue...otherwise this is just another catholic tactic seen here often....perhaps you don’t have an opinion but simply follow the Piped Piper?


358 posted on 01/10/2012 12:27:37 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Sure caww, I would love to have a dialogue, my profile states what I believe in, would you like to start there? (Sincerely, that kinda looks sarcastic re-reading it but I’m being honest.)


359 posted on 01/10/2012 2:23:12 PM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: thesaleboat

No, not being sarcastic just honest.


360 posted on 01/10/2012 7:04:00 PM PST by caww
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