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Two men for every three women? [Utah social ratios enough to re-institute polygamy?]
Mormon Coffee (MRM.org) ^ | Dec. 19, 2011 | Eric Johnson

Posted on 01/01/2012 4:51:53 PM PST by Colofornian

n Utah, the issue of polygamy is a very sensitive topic. Should the topic of one man marrying more than one wife somehow come up in a conversation, watch the eyes roll and folks run away from the conversation. So, needless to say, this is not an issue generally dealt with over the picket fence.

However, when a Mormon is willing to discuss the issue, it’s amazing how many folktales are used. For one, it is commonly asserted that polygamy was necessary back in the pioneer days of Brigham Young because there were not enough men for the women. (Note: According to all statistics I have seen, there NEVER was a time when Mormon men outnumbered Mormon women at any time in the Utah Territory.) Thus, having a man take two or more wives is somehow touted as actually being helpful to the women, as otherwise they would have ended up as Old Maids. (In case you’re wondering, being single for many years is NOT a good thing in Mormonism.) The men who sacrificed themselves in this way are almost made out to be heroes, as if they were taking one for the team so that women would have a chance at the celestial kingdom. I once had one Latter-day Saint tell me that the male/female ratios actually became close to 50/50 in the 1890s when the Manifesto abolishing polygamy was given, so the practice had somehow served its purpose and was no longer needed. Really.

Hence, imagine my surprise when I discovered that, according to a recent survey from Trinity College called “Mormons in the United States, 1990-2008” (Salt Lake Tribune, 12/15, p. A1), there appear to be many more Mormon women than Mormon men in the state of Utah. Consider these statistics: In 1990, a total of 53 percent of the Mormons in Utah were females (55% in the rest of the country). Eighteen years later, though, in 2008, there were 60% LDS females in Utah compared to 40% males (52% in the rest of the country).

In other words, if you’re female in Utah, there’s a good possibility you will be sitting home on Saturday night. Imagine, this equals three women for every two men in Utah. Go to a Saturday night dance and there are 60 girls to only 40 boys. Some are getting left out. For returning 21-year-old male missionaries, these are some pretty good odds when coming home. I can only wonder if there will soon be an influx of Mormon males moving to SLC from other parts in the country as well? Even with Vegas so close, these odds have to look pretty good.

Since Utah Mormons have a problem of too many females and not enough males, the question needs to be asked: Should the Mormon Church propose making polygamy legal once more? After all, there are possibly some women who won’t be able to attend the temple as married women unless willing men can lend a hand. There must be some willing married Mormon males out there who might be willing to do their duty and get married to two, maybe even three women. After all, if God intended polygamy back in the old days to provide assistance to the women, it seems like this practice ought to be reconsidered once more.

Of course, this is not going to happen. But the next time a Mormon uses the “too many women, not enough men” argument for support of 19th century polygamy, ask if they believe Mormonism’s prophet will soon be told by God to reinstitute this practice because many LDS women don’t have worthy husbands. Odds are, they’ll say “no.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: lds; men; mormon; polygamy; wehatemormons
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To: Godzilla; Scoutmaster; mrreaganaut

It’s a thread on polygamy, not polyandry so its all good.


101 posted on 01/02/2012 3:45:46 PM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: Godzilla; mrreaganaut; Scoutmaster

Should read polygyny not polygamy...my bad.


102 posted on 01/02/2012 3:52:12 PM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: Godzilla; reaganaut; Scoutmaster

Polygamy: maybe.

Polyandry: no.

Electric guitars: yes, please!

That is all.


103 posted on 01/02/2012 3:52:24 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Battlestar Galactica: Another Testament of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
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To: Godzilla; reaganaut; mrreaganaut

You practice your polygamy with more than one wife, I’ll practice mine with more than one guitar. Brigham Young is jealous.


104 posted on 01/02/2012 3:56:15 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: WellyP
Slim pickings in the Vail Valley. Send the extras over here!

Women from Vail? You couldn't afford one.......

105 posted on 01/02/2012 4:05:35 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (If only the democrats could fragment their party like conservatives are doing.......)
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To: mrreaganaut
Electric guitars: yes, please!

The acoustics override the electrics around here (there's a Gibson L-200, a custom shop Martin OM Madi/Adi, and a Collings D2H Madi/Adi upstairs in my office right now, along with a Scruggs Mastertone and a F-5g). I was with the church youth on New Year's Eve, but I said good night to 12/30 with a John Mayer Strat custom-painted a la Hendrix's Monterrey. With the daisy, like Hendrix had, not the rose that Pamelina put on the Fender-issued Monterrey copy.

But I wimped out and bought a right-handed one. I seriously thought about buying left and swapping out the nut to get that voodoo sound from the back-angled bridge.

Were we talking about polygamy?

106 posted on 01/02/2012 4:07:02 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

My coolest guitar is a Gretsch 5120; my most expensive is a Cordoba acoustic. Sadly, I found out after I got the Spanish guitar that I’m allergic to cedar.


107 posted on 01/02/2012 4:14:42 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Battlestar Galactica: Another Testament of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
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To: mrreaganaut

Was dispatched to pick up Chinese food - headed to Freep mail.


108 posted on 01/02/2012 4:58:05 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: reaganaut

You ARE paying attention! ;^)


109 posted on 01/02/2012 5:37:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scoutmaster
...I've collected guitars seriously for 40 years this year;...

Come to Indianapolis for the Super Bowl: stay for the guitars!


http://www.indystar.com/article/20111218/ENTERTAINMENT/112180316/Eclectic-exhibit-features-Colts-owner-Jim-Irsay-s-impressive-pieces-rock-n-roll-history

110 posted on 01/02/2012 5:40:51 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
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111 posted on 01/02/2012 5:45:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scoutmaster
Put it on sideways!




112 posted on 01/02/2012 5:48:05 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scoutmaster
Gawrsh




Aw...  shucks...
 


113 posted on 01/02/2012 5:49:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Godzilla

Thus the response...


114 posted on 01/02/2012 5:56:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

Make up mind!

Either Poly wants a cracker or NOT!


115 posted on 01/02/2012 5:57:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scoutmaster
Brigham Young is jealous.

And, about 53°.

116 posted on 01/02/2012 5:59:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mrreaganaut; Scoutmaster

I have some CDs where people are playing guitars.

Can I just sit back and read you guy’s stuff?


117 posted on 01/02/2012 6:01:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scoutmaster; reaganaut; mrreaganaut

118 posted on 01/02/2012 6:31:42 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Elsie
Sorry. I'm listening, gape-mouthed, to Spousal Unit give legal advice over the telephone. I often inwardly express wonderment at how education and muli-state bar admissions osmotically have been transferred through the marital relationship. Inwardly, because outward expressions have been discouraged.

I think we are through with guitar porn for the moment, although I misspoke. It's an American Deluxe. And she looks like this. And she's not going to play herself.


119 posted on 01/02/2012 6:33:42 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

Sorry. I’m listening, gape-mouthed, to Spousal Unit give legal advice over the telephone. I often inwardly express wonderment at how education and muli-state bar admissions osmotically have been transferred through the marital relationship.

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Ping to #119, maybe my husband can explain as it has happened in our relationship as well. Just like he can converse regarding Medieval leprosy.


120 posted on 01/02/2012 6:51:15 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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