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Following The Truth: Confession – Is It Still Necessary? (Catholic or Open)
CE.com ^ | July 28th, 2009 | Gary Zimak

Posted on 12/28/2011 10:49:22 AM PST by Salvation

Confession – Is It Still Necessary?

July 28th, 2009 by Gary Zimak

One of the harsh realities facing the Catholic Church is the fact that many of her members no longer receive the sacrament of Confession on a regular basis. For one reason or another, many Catholics don’t feel the need to go to Confession. Let’s look at some of the common objections and discuss why the sacrament of Confession is still as relevant today as it was when Jesus instituted it 2000 years ago.

“I confess my sins directly to Christ. Why do I need to go through a ‘middle man’?” This may come as a surprise to some, but the Church teaches that when you go to Confession, you are speaking directly to Jesus. Why the need for a priest? For one thing, that’s how the Lord designed the sacrament. In John 20:21-23, Jesus breathed on the Apostles and said “Receive the Holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” Careful observation of Jesus’ words will show that while He is giving the Apostles the ability to forgive sins, they are also receiving the authority to make a judgment. There are certain cases where absolution may be denied and that decision would be impossible without knowing the details of the offense. Therefore, verbal confession of sins is necessary. Another very logical argument for confessing your sins to another individual is that we tend to be very lenient with ourselves. Jesus was well aware of our human nature when He instituted the sacrament of Confession. Verbalizing your sins to another individual requires a much greater level of humility than confessing them in your own mind. Throughout the gospels, Our Lord stressed the importance of humility for His followers and this is one more way to practice that virtue.

“Jesus only gave that authority to His Apostles. It doesn’t apply to priests!” The Church teaches that the authority granted by Jesus to the original Apostles is passed down to their successors, the bishops. This is known as Apostolic Succession. Due to the large number of Catholics in the world today, it would be impossible for the bishops to carry out their ministry effectively without help. For that reason, they are assisted in their mission by priests. In order to effectively assist the bishops, the authority to forgive or retain sins is also extended to priests.

“The Church teaches that it’s acceptable to’ follow your conscience’ and I don’t feel that (artificial birth control, missing Mass, premarital sex, in-vitro fertilization, etc.) is a sin.” Using this logic can justify any action and seemingly eliminate the need for the sacrament of Confession. While the Church does teach that we should follow our conscience, she also instructs that we must continually inform that conscience by studying Church teaching. The human conscience can be defective, as evidenced by individuals such as Adolph Hitler and Saddam Hussein, who believed that their evil actions were morally justified.

“I thought that the Church did away with mortal sin. Didn’t Vatican II state that nobody goes to Hell anymore?” Sadly, this is a very popular belief, even among Catholics. Just for the record, the Church teaching on mortal (or grave) sin has not changed. There are some sins that render us incapable of eternal life and their intentional commission warrants the punishment of Hell. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him forever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called “hell.” (CCC 1033)

While the above quotation may frighten some, the good news is that all of our sins (mortal and venial) can be forgiven in the sacrament of Confession. We need only express sorrow for our sins and vow to refrain from committing them again. If we fail, there is no limit to the number of times we can seek forgiveness in the sacrament. God knows that human nature is weak and only asks that we try our best to avoid sin.

“You only have to go to Confession if you’ve committed a mortal sin.” While this is technically a true statement, there is much grace to be obtained even when only venial sins are committed:

Without being strictly necessary, confession of everyday faults (venial sins) is nevertheless strongly recommended by the Church. Indeed the regular confession of our venial sins helps us form our conscience, fight against evil tendencies, let ourselves be healed by Christ and progress in the life of the Spirit. (CCC 1458)

For many years, I neglected this great sacrament. I would go two or three times a year, mainly out of habit. I confessed the same sins each time, carefully avoiding any that were too controversial. My spiritual life was stuck in a rut and I wasn’t making any substantial progress in avoiding sin. One day I heard something that changed my life: I learned that the pope went to Confession weekly! Realizing that I didn’t understand the power of the sacrament, I decided that I would start confessing my sins bi-weekly. The results were incredible…For the first time in my life, I started making progress in avoiding my “favorite” sins. The sacramental grace received in Confession was helping me to become a better person!

If it’s been a while since you’ve gone to Confession, I urge you to do as soon as possible. If you’re not sure what to say, simply ask the priest and he will guide you. If you’re concerned that the priest will reveal your sins to others, rest assured that he will not. He is forbidden (under threat of automatic excommunication) from revealing or making any use of any information heard in the confessional. If you’ve been carrying around guilt for a long time and wondering if God can ever forgive you…Hearing these words of absolution will assure you that God has indeed forgiven your sins!

God, the Father of mercies,

through the death and the resurrection of his Son

has reconciled the world to himself

and sent the Holy Spirit among us

for the forgiveness of sins;

through the ministry of the Church

may God give you pardon and peace,

and I absolve you from your sins

in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Prayer
KEYWORDS: catholic; conscience; penance; sacraments
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To: Salvation

Okay but those don’t define the word “sin” it just says what they are based on that church’s teachings. Words of men. I asked “what is sin” - we Jews have the definition. One statement that covers it all not several plus different degrees (mortal, venal, etc.)


81 posted on 12/31/2011 10:41:44 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: Salvation; All
 
I don't need to read links to what your church's fathers claim The Christ taught about forgiveness of sin. I can get it from Him.
 
The Christ mentions forgiving sins on many occasions. Only in Matthew 18 does He explain what sins we, or the apostles, can/could and must forgive. Nowhere does He give permission to a man to forgive sins against God for God as your religion teaches. The following is from a previous post about Matthew 18; 

"In Matthew 18:15-18 we see Christ instructing His disciples on how to correct a fellow believer. It is extremely telling in this instance that Our Lord identifies the Church rather than Scripture as the final authority to be appealed to. He Himself says that if an offending brother "will not hear the Church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican" (Matt. 18:17) – that is, as an outsider who is lost. Moreover, Our Lord then solemnly re-emphasizes the Church’s infallible teaching authority in verse 18 by repeating His earlier statement about the power to bind and loose (Matt. 16:18-19), directing it this time to the Apostles as a group (7) rather than just to Peter: "Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven." (Matt. 18:18)". 

Let's put that in context and examine what Jesus taught.

15Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

This is one human who has sinned against anther asking that brother for forgiveness.

 16But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Here that same brother is told to take one or two more. No mention of them being any more than a brother or sister in Christ.

 17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Here he is told to take it before the church, his local group of brothers and sisters in Christ. The church has no duty other than being a witness that he tried to get the other brother to forgive him. The church forgives no one because they weren't the ones being asked to forgive. The brother has done all he can so that sin is loosed from him even though the other brother didn't forgive him. He is no longer responsible for it. The unforgiving brother has his sins against God bound by his un forgiveness

 18Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

This is how binding and loosing comes about. It is not a special gift as the Catholics teach. It is the result of our actions. If we do not forgive the sins of a brother committed against us, when asked, God cannot forgive or sins against Him when we ask. Jesus explains more in 23-35.

 19Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

 20For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Notice He didn't include saint's in heaven. Only people on earth. Hmmm

 21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

Peter asks Jesus how many times he has to forgive a brother who sins against him, Peter. Brother forgiving brother. 

 22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

 23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

 24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.

 25But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

 26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

 27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

 28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellow servants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

 29And his fellow servant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

 30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

 31So when his fellow servants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

 32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

 33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellow servant, even as I had pity on thee?

 34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

 35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

We have to forgive to be forgiven. If we do not forgive/loose a brother when asked, our sins against God can't be forgiven/loosed. This was not only for the apostle as your church teaches. It applies to all of us.

This is the Catholic version of the Lord's Prayer

"Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil." 
 
You have probably said this hundreds, if not thousands, of times when reciting the Rosary and never realized how ludicrous and un-Christian your religion is. Having sins, changed to debts, and those who sin against us, change to debtors, might be part of the problem in not understanding what The Christ was teaching with this prayer.  
 
We are asking the only Father who can forgive our sins against Him, to forgive those sins. He can only comply with that if you forgive your brother when he asks. God the Father can, and will, forgive our sins because the penance has all ready been paid for on the cross.
 
Salvation, you gave over 50 links to what your religion claims are for remission of sin and/or penance. Jesus says the wages of sin is death. How do you justify your religion's claim that a man can have you say; "10 Hail Mary and 5 Our Fathers", or anything else, and it absolves the death penalty? 

I am sure the links pertain to forgiving sin. Can you save me a lot of time and tell me just one link where The Christ explicitly gave the apostles, or any man, the ability to forgive a man's sins against God for God. If you can't, I will have to believe they are like the example above, Peter being told he has to forgive another man's sin against him. 

May God lead us all to His truth, BVB

 

 
 

 


 

82 posted on 01/03/2012 12:54:50 AM PST by Bobsvainbabblings
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“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “


83 posted on 09/01/2013 3:08:29 PM PDT by narses
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“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “


84 posted on 09/01/2013 3:08:59 PM PDT by narses
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To: Salvation

“The sacramental grace received in Confession was helping me to become a better person!”

Yes, it works for me.

The exercise of examining your conscience, confessing, being held accountable ON A REGULAR BASIS and then receiving the grace of confession does help you to become a better person.


85 posted on 09/02/2013 5:52:43 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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