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California atheists block out nativity scenes
Hot Air ^ | December 24, 2011 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 12/24/2011 7:45:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t like dredging up that whole “war on Christmas” thing, but (with apologies in advance to Allahpundit) this story kind of gets under my skin. In Santa Monica, California, there is apparently one particular stretch of road alongside a park which has traditionally been set aside for Christmas displays. The nativity scenes on display have been popular with residents and tourists. But in order to be fair to everyone, the city used a lottery to allocate space to groups wishing to put up Creche displays and related scenes. Now, a group of atheists are accused of swamping the lottery and taking over the lots.

This year, however, atheists have taken over most of the two-block stretch, nearly shutting out and angering a group of churches who contend the atheists have organized against the Christians and gamed a city lottery process allocating the holiday exhibit space.

In response, a leader of the atheist group says he’s just looking for evenhanded treatment to present his beliefs in a public space — and goes so far as to say that the city shouldn’t even be allowing any religious or even atheist expression in the park.

That’s why he and his group have put nothing on half of the park exhibit spaces that they’ve secured from the city this year.

The atheists are declaring the politically left-leaning seaside town of Santa Monica as their latest battleground in a national movement to assert their rights.

“I’m part of a growing movement in America of atheists standing up for their rights. It’s a very exciting time for us that we’re having more of an impact in our society,” said Damon Vix, the organizer of the atheist group.

Yes, you’re having a big “impact” on the local society, alright. You’re getting everyone angry at you and ruining their holiday season to no apparent purpose. In the interview, Mr. Vix makes it clear that he has no interest in seeing other people’s views being represented – he just doesn’t want the Christians to use it.

In the interest of fairness, I could see if competing groups wanted to use some of the lots for an alternative display. If somebody wants to put up a big menorah on one of the lots, I don’t think anyone is going to get too worked up over it. And for these atheists, if they had something in mind as an alternative message… even a Festivus pole and a wrestling mat for some feats of strength, I’d probably have to give them some support. But to lock off the land to leave it empty rather than allow a nativity scene? That’s not some fight for equality or freedom. That’s just being a Grinch.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: atheists; california; christmas; chritians; moralabsolutes
Sounds like they're winning.
1 posted on 12/24/2011 7:45:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are they so afraid of, hmmm?

Must be something they can’t see, hmmm.

P.S. Believers also have rights so there
will be NO giving up to the evil in your hearts.


2 posted on 12/24/2011 8:12:14 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are their own worst enemy. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

I have to constantly renind myself that our beautiful Lord came to save people like this. I believe without seeing.

So, God bless us all...EVERYONE and Merry Christmas.


3 posted on 12/24/2011 8:18:55 PM PST by mardi59
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just wondering how they spend Christmas at home.


4 posted on 12/24/2011 8:56:14 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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I'm sorry for these angry, bitter, vengeful losers. They are the ones who are really losing; they cannot erase God or His message either from the world, or the hearts of those who have faith in Him.

5 posted on 12/24/2011 9:17:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; mrreaganaut

Another day...another reason to be glad I moved the Hell out of California.


6 posted on 12/24/2011 9:25:06 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: SkyDancer

Alone.


7 posted on 12/24/2011 9:45:30 PM PST by namvolunteer (Trying to adhere to liberal rules of engagement when they have no rules is suicide. - Maelstrom)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘’Atheists don’t believe in God. But the Devil does’’.— Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Merry Christmas Second Division Vet.


8 posted on 12/24/2011 9:54:31 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Merry Christmas!


9 posted on 12/24/2011 9:56:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every Californian angry about this, with a front yard or a front window, should just put up a nativity scene.

All those in a church should try to organize one for their church; particularly a live nativity, which is lovely.

Also private groups/organizations.

We could have more nativity scenes and re-telling of the nativity story than ever in history if we put our anger into positively just taking care of business.

Don’t rely on the state to help you spread the gospel. Utilize it if you can, but don’t waste energy on it.


10 posted on 12/24/2011 11:26:14 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
What are they so afraid of, hmmm?

They're afraid it's true. If they weren't, they wouldn't bother.

11 posted on 12/24/2011 11:35:43 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This people go out of their way to publicly prove their stupidity and childish demeanor.


12 posted on 12/25/2011 1:19:45 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where's the Christian 'occupy' when you could use it?

Find one of those plots or spaces that has been allotted to an anti-theist who loves 'occupy'.

A few hours each evening, from a local diverse church group, bring real live people to play all the parts and sing songs. A Hispanic baby Jesus. Three Wise men, from China, India, even Iran etc. Have fun singing Christmas songs for an hour or so. "We Three Kings" could be funny. Ham it up. Spoof whatever one can, tweak their atheist little noses in such a way they would be embarrassed to complain. Then, once you've gotten their attention, sing the best, most worshipful stuff one can, with all your heart.

Create a mild ruckus. If the act was good enough, get the news cameras down there, hehheh... Occupy! THERE WAS NO ROOM AT THE INN FOR THE BABY, so we were forced to occupy this space!
Mary & Joseph, or one of the shepherds to atheists, "what do you have against poor innocent mexican babies?" "what are you, some kind of anti-immigrant racist bigot?".

It could be fun. Maybe next year...

13 posted on 12/25/2011 2:48:52 AM PST by 7MMmag
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

.....Or so they claim.


14 posted on 12/25/2011 5:14:36 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A GOOD and BLESSED MERRY CHRISTMAS! Jesus Christ is BORN TODAY! GIVE HIM GLORY!


15 posted on 12/25/2011 5:17:07 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He who never thirsts for God here, will thirst for Him before he has been dead
a minute.
~ B. North


16 posted on 12/25/2011 7:54:06 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only if we let them. Besides, they have their own day, April 1!


17 posted on 12/25/2011 9:13:06 AM PST by getarope (I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum!)
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To: little jeremiah
I'm sorry for these angry, bitter, vengeful losers. They are the ones who are really losing; they cannot erase God or His message either from the world, or the hearts of those who have faith in Him.

Well said my FRiend.

Merry CHRISTmas to you and yours!

18 posted on 12/25/2011 11:31:12 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All you have to do is have every Christian put up a nativity scene in front of their churches and houses.


19 posted on 12/25/2011 9:19:18 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: Persevero
THEY ARE THE STATE! State and local officials are their creatures. The attitude of these atheists reminds me of the Englishman who on a guided tour in France protests that the guide speaks only French. People who are in the minority, especially people who have chosen to be in the minority, have no right to demand that the majority conform to their opinions.
20 posted on 12/26/2011 12:13:26 PM PST by RobbyS
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