Posted on 12/10/2011 8:17:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind
I’m a Christian....and call me crazy...but I’ve always had an affinity for ol’ Hitch. Maybe it’s because I’ve lived in Britain (or married to a Brit)....but I’ve always chuckled at his candor. He’s been VERY outspoken about Islam (which is BANG ON)....but I’ve never found a cold-hardheartedness like I have with so many other atheists....and, sometimes, I’m wondering if he’s just ‘being bombastic for ratings and writings’.
I pray for him. There is always hope....and something tells me.......he knows that.
Is there any real difference?
Christopher Hitchens’ brother is a very strong Catholic. Maybe he’s having an influence on him, in the late stages of his disease.
The house is on fire. I don’t want people to die. I have found the path out of the fire and want others to find the path as well.
I remember listening to a man from India who anguished over what he might be reincarnated into after his death. He was truly troubled by the thought that he might have to go through another painful illness. Over and over.
The pain of despair has got to be worse. Resting in the arms of someone who loves you is a much more comforting end.
People of faith sin every day. So religion doesn’t save anyone.
People of faith sin every day. So religion doesn’t save anyone.
People of faith sin every day. So religion doesn’t save anyone.
You might consider reading the sight rules.
Of course, the Deist’s recognize Objective Truth and Natural Law Theory which presupposes a Designer. Atheists are Relativists.
What that means is there can be no “homosexual” marriage—because there is a standard for Right and Wrong which comes from Natural Law (imbedded into our Constitution because our Natural Rights come from God.)
“Homosexual” marriage defies “Right Reason according to Nature” (Just Law) which is the fundamental principle of our Legal System.
So, there is a MAJOR difference between Deists and Atheists—and it is Rational Thought-—The Age of Reason was when “Deists” appeared.
Irrational Atheism led to Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot BECAUSE there is no Objective Truth—so any kind of law is “Right” —like homosexual marriage. There is no basis for Right and Wrong for atheists—just whatever urge feels right.
Life is a gift. Creation is also a gift.
I do not judge you or harbor any ill will against you in any way.
But with your permission I think I will head off to bed.
Ah Hitchens has spent his life spewing his form of 'hate' against the very Creator of his soul. I do not speculate over which side of the 'gulf' any soul goes when they return to met the Maker.
There is a requirement you left out in this forgiveness business, and, that is repentance, meaning, a change of heart. Hitchens is responsible for his own beliefs or lack thereof. Now I do not take any joy for his bad health. I will say one day, as with the rest of us, Hitchens will get to have his own, face to face, one on one, meet and greet with the Creator of his soul.
Funny little thing about your post is that when it serves your purpose you preach Christ, and then as if that is the only requirement for a 'believer' jump off the deep in and 'JUDGE' believers. So which is it, you know, old Alinsky had a particular 'rule' for radicals to follow in regards to ridiculing the Christians.
What that means is there can be no “homosexual” marriage—because there is a standard for Right and Wrong which comes from Natural Law (imbedded into our Constitution because our Natural Rights come from God.)
I thought Deists believed a creator made the universe and then abandoned it. So where is the Deists Bible that states all these things you claim?
Designed the World. There is a difference. In other words, an acorn will always grow into an acorn tree unless perverted from its original design.
Natural Law Theory is similar...just states there was a Designer of Nature (which is obvious to everyone with a brain).
Fundamental idea of our Constitution and where Natural Rights come from the Creator—all this philosophy came from Natural Law Theory-—Laws of Nature and Nature’s God.
Even Aristotle—a pagan came up with the observation of design in all nature and the teleological design in man—where his ideas of Ethics derived.
It was Marx that threw out Natural Law Theory—he hated the family unit—took loyalty from the state. He also couldn’t remold man into the image he wanted to design—that like Winston Smith. Very ugly.....
It is why the Marxists are trying to destroy the meaning of biology and make men and women interchangeable. It will destroy the emotional and physical development of children. They need both a male and female role model—preferably who love them—to grow into emotionally healthy and strong adults who can interact maturely with both sexes. It is God’s design for man.
I’m still waiting for the Deists’s bible that states their beliefs. You view seems more Judeo-christian.
I’m still waiting for the Deists’s bible that states their beliefs. You view seems more Judeo-christian.
“For goodness’ sake”. That’s interesting. And suppose someone who is also an atheist has a different idea of what is “good”? Something you think is “very bad”?
That’s the big problem with doing what one thinks is “very good”. Hitler thought he was doing good for Germany. Helping the German people, making Germany a better place.
I’m sure Pol Pot thought he was doing good. So do many objectively “bad” people. They don’t think they’re doing “bad”, they think the people opposing or criticizing them are the “bad” ones.
You’re riding on the coattails of religious moral principles. At least some honest atheists recognize that they are better off living in a country that has at least a few vestiges of moral principles based on religion.
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I don’t think anyone is expressing hatred. If anything, I think this thread reflects the spirit of charity and hope us believers have for Mr. Hitchens. One should never discount another who has a concern for one’s immortal soul.
It’s interesting, my father and I were just today discussing the parable of the Good Samaritan and how the man left beaten on the side of the road was passed by a priest and a Levite and the outcast Samaritan was the one who stopped and offered aid. In that sense, I accept your characterization that “non-believers” do good in the world. As I’m sure does every believer.
Having said that, however, I think its unreasonable for those who subscribe to Hitchens’ notion of a “celestial dictatorship” to assume that they, through the power of their own intellect are equipped to determine moral truth. For if there is no God, no Natural Law, then all we have is utilitarian philosophical musings.
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