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To: ml/nj; BlackElk; SumProVita
The quote is from 1965, not 1994. Since 1965 we have new evidence.

Catholics already had centuries of evidence against Muslims in 1965, but since then Catholics have seen plenty of new evidence about Modernist infiltration of Church offices. Consider this evidence of Modernist heresy:

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm#841

I hasten to add for any non-Catholic readers that the latest Catechism (CCC) is definitely non-infallible since it is derived from the non-infallible Vatican II council.
15 posted on 12/09/2011 4:33:27 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

But it is the teaching of the Catholic church so do Catholics get to choose which teachings they will accept or not?


21 posted on 12/09/2011 5:46:44 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
I hasten to add for any non-Catholic readers that the latest Catechism (CCC) is definitely non-infallible since it is derived from the non-infallible Vatican II council

Are you a sedevacantist?
25 posted on 12/09/2011 9:19:04 PM PST by armydoc
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Even if one holds that Vatican II is completely infallible, it can be infallible only in its exposition of Catholic doctrine. Asserting that Muslims worship the same God as Christians is making an assertion about the doctrine and beliefs of a non-Catholic group. Therefore, neither that assertion, nor any other assertion about the beliefs of a non-Catholic religion or group is protected by the charism of infallibility.
32 posted on 12/10/2011 8:07:00 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
I hasten to add for any non-Catholic readers that the latest Catechism (CCC) is definitely non-infallible since it is derived from the non-infallible Vatican II council.

And let me guess, that argument holds true until the next time you guys want to point to your catechism as infallible...

It would seem that whoever wrote your newer catechism deemed it infallible...And it seems your religion accepted it as infallible...

But of course your catechism, new or old is fallible...And what is so back slapping funny is that until today, you guys tried to defend that position of your catechism with some of the craziest excuses...

But hey, what's your pope say about this new declaration???

37 posted on 12/10/2011 12:28:26 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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